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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 201 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What would it look like? I'd guess Amazon ads in the search bar, proprietary package managers overriding the old open package manager, and popup ads for distribution Pro?

Wait...

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Ubuntu was my first distro because ubuntu was linux for outsiders many years ago. Any other distro was only for hardcore people. I don't regret hopping around the linux world.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I also started on Ubuntu. They used to be pretty great, good device support and basically no hassle. But I am done af and not going back.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's me as well, they did a lot to get newcomers in. It's just easy to poke fun at them these days.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

It was the only one that didn't freeze when I plugged something into the USB port on my laptop when I started 20 years ago.

I've since moved to plain Debian because of canonical's decisions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I used Ubuntu for over 10 years. I loved it. But Canonical does have a lot of baggage. Plus, I wanted to go to the source. So that's why I use Debian. I'd still advise a new user to go for Mint if they loved the Windows UI or Ubuntu if they hated it. If you use and love Mint, I don't think anyone would criticize you for continuing to use it. If you use and love Ubuntu, I'd say Debian is a very easy next step.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I used to be "Debian on the server, Ubuntu on the desktop" but recently I've spun up a few Debian boxes for desktop and I'm pleasantly surprised.

Kinda wish Valve would go for a full-out supported distro that stays in step with the Deck for Linux gamers (the old desktop SteamOS is kinda abandoned from what I can see), among with making the deck frontend a supported desktop manager. It would make sense for them to do so and rake in the game sales whilst providing a well-supported platform without the shit others are doing.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Same. I started really using Linux with Ubuntu 6.06 and was drawn in by its "Linux for human beings" goals - the Ubuntu homepage of the era really pushed the ideals of community and openness. Canonical sat in the background paying to send you free CDs in the mail. It was such an idealistic thing back then.

And then it all changed around 2010. The color scheme shifted to a shitty MacOS lookalike, the human elements were dropped, the logo was reworked, it got bundled with a paid music store, then Amazon ads in the search, and it's been a roller coaster on a downward spiral ever since. I switched to Debian not long after the initial enshittification in the early 2010s and have not looked back, though I moved most of my systems to Arch a few years back because I like life in the fast rolling release lane and Debian wouldn't support my new GPUs.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What Fuckbuntu spin is that?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Ubuntu has had all three of those things. Amazon ads in the search bar was awhile back. Not sure but I assume they still hijack installing Firefox using apt and instead install it using snap. And Ubuntu Pro popups are a new thing.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It's ridiculous how Ubuntu went from the easiest entry to Linux to one of the most hated distros in the community. Seriously, I'll never understand how the broken brains of their leadership even work.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not so much broken as change of focus. Their focus now is money, and it's hard to turn down hundreds of millions of dollars.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (5 children)

You forgot selling user searches to amazon

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Increasingly so, and following the path that RedHat was taking prior (and probably worse to come given their new ownership)

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Oh definitely.

I still hate my old phone for locking ADB behind a Mi account registration and when I wanted to go into the theme settings some stupid marketplace app opened from which I could quit by hitting the back button to het to the actual android theme settings

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago

snap instead of deb

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Using sudo costs in game currency

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Sudo is on a cooldown

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

Windows, it would look like windows....

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Exit codes from processes are damage points that you take against your HP. When your HP runs out, the distro reformats itself to a clean state.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I know this is a joke but "Enshittification" requires there to be a monopoly that abuses commercial customers along with users. Linux distros can't really have monopolies since the switching costs are so low.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Except if you are locked out of system management and you just can't switch. Or only at the price of hardware incompatibilities and consumer apps refusing to work when they see you after practicing your ownership of the device.
See Android.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

The video actually addresses that by mentioning a company coming in nice at first and then doing EEE to kill off ll competition and leave them the only significant player in the space

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What about a distro that artificially raises the switching cost?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Updates are available for $14.99 a month.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

$ snips install ...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Made by Microsoft

Yes, that does exist, and no, it's not for consumers, but if it did, it would look and feel like an enshittified Linux distro.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (12 children)

We have this already. It's called Ubuntu + Gnome

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Gnome isn't bad, at all. The team has caused controversy and made mistakes, but gnome's experience is great.

Talking about ubuntu, snaps suck, and it is more "bloated" than what you'd expect, but still, ubuntu isn't half bad. Is mint better for what the ubuntu audience wants? Yes. Does ubuntu still work well? Yes

And ubuntu server rocks

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

your autocorrect misspelled debian server in that last line there.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

even with all its faults and shitty maintainers, gnome is among the best ux of any de.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Gnome isn't enshitification just because you prefer a different DE ffs

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