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Plasma 6 Bugs

If you encounter a bug, proceed to https://bugs.kde.org, check whether it has been reported.

If it hasn't, report it yourself.

PLEASE THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE POSTING HERE.

Developers do not look for reports on social media, so they will not see it and all it does is clutter up the feed.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's funny: if the telemetry is opt-in, I'll opt in, if it's opt-out, I'll opt out

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey man, I just like pressing buttons, switches, and dragging sliders. I don't need to know what they do as long as they aren't what they were before

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For some reason this got me wondering what the anti-default Plasma install would be like, with every single option set to a non-default value.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

GNOME would happen

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago

Yes. It's all about transparency. I can see exactly what KDE is exporting, so I'm willing to help KDE. I cannot say the same for closed source software.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago

Yes. I trust KDE to not misuse my data

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No. Nothing against KDE I just want to minimise all information leaving my computer. If something is bothering me I try to change it myself or make a bug report or feature request.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah same here I got zero tolerance with spyware/telemetry and it's one of the main reasons I switched to Linux in the first place.

Do I believe KDE would misuse my data? Nope not really but it's not something I want to promote no matter how anonymized the data is or how nicely they ask.

Same rule goes for any project even ones I've donated money to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

If you look at the data that KDE exports, there's nothing that directly identifies you. That's why I'm willing to help KDE. Like I said in my other post. It's all about transparency.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same, I report crashes, but regular telemetry is rather not

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At least it's a slider, so it's not just "everything or nothing".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Oh ya, don't get me wrong, im glad they have what they have and it's opt in

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Nice try fed, won't get my QT version that easily

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Yes. I trust and support KDE

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

My systems generally do send all the feedback to the KDE devs, so I help determine where effort should be put next.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

I put these slides to the max everywhere. There is one in dolphin and one in discover? I think? Wherever I see these, they're going to the max.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Yes, I like KDE and am happy to help. And I really like the fact that it shows an example of what data is being sent. If more software did this, I would be willing to do it more often.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Yes, I like the transparency and want to help KDE however I can

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yup, it bugs me a lot that they refuse to disclose the data so that we all can learn from it (especially for statistics practitioners)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The issue is that this data can be used to fingerprint or de-anonomize users. Even if it's just a big list of statistics, knowing how likely or unlikely a system change, setting change, version, etc. is can help greatly with a person looking to pin down users. They'll know how likely a person with a specific pattern is the same person.

I'm glad it's not distributed. If it was, I'd slide it all the way back to 0. Good intentions from the collectors doesn't stop bad intentions of consumers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Datasets are still valuable for the broader community - there are many datasets out there, like the Brain project or the Oasis project which provide important insights into brain illnesses to train state of the art ML models on.

Any practitioner who wishes to work on those datasets is to sign a contract where they pledge not to try to identify any patient.

These kinds of contracts have been around for a while now, and if we could negotiate a situation as tricky as brain illnesses, I'm certain the same can be done for which version you have of a software, which particular config changes one has made or, say, if you use KActivities at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

That actually works on two levels, getting rid of bugs. Good one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I do but using firejail on my system the feedback doesn't work :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, but for me even the crash reporter doesn't actually work so I assume the same would go for those analytics.