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Donald Trump continues to hold an advantage over President Joe Biden as the campaign – and the former president’s criminal trial – move forward, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. And in the coming rematch, opinions about the first term of each man vying for a second four years in the White House now appear to work in Trump’s favor, with most Americans saying that, looking back, Trump’s term as president was a success, while a broad majority says Biden’s has so far been a failure.

Trump’s support in the poll among registered voters holds steady at 49% in a head-to-head matchup against Biden, the same as in CNN’s last national poll on the race in January, while Biden’s stands at 43%, not significantly different from January’s 45%.

Looking back, 55% of all Americans now say they see Trump’s presidency as a success, while 44% see it as a failure. In a January 2021 poll taken just before Trump left office and days after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, 55% considered his time as president a failure.

Assessing Biden’s time in office so far, 61% say his presidency thus far has been a failure, while 39% say it’s been a success. That’s narrowly worse than the 57% who called the first year of his administration a failure in January 2022, with 41% calling it a success.

Republicans now are more unified around the idea that Trump’s presidency was a success than Democrats are that Biden’s has been one. Overall, 92% of Republicans call Trump’s time in office a success, while just 73% of Democrats say Biden’s has been a success so far. Among independents, 51% say Trump’s presidency was successful, while only 37% see Biden’s as a success.

There is some overlap in views of the two most recent presidents’ achievements, with 14% of Americans saying they consider both are failures, while 8% say both are successes. About half of registered voters, 47%, consider Biden’s presidency thus far to be a failure while saying Trump’s was a success, while only 30% say Biden’s has been successful and that Trump’s was not. Public opinion of former presidents generally rises in retrospect, although no other modern president has attempted a similar return to power after an electoral loss.

Negative views of Biden’s work in office have held for much of his presidency. In the new poll, 60% disapprove of his handling of the job and 40% approve, about the same as it’s been in CNN polling for more than a year. Even Biden’s strongest issue approval ratings in the poll are also in negative territory, with 45% approving of his handling of health care policy and 44% approving his handling of student loan debt. And his worst issue approval rating – for his handling of the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza – yields 28% approval to 71% disapproval, including an 81% disapproval mark among those younger than 35 and majority disapproval among Democrats (53%).

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The biggest problem with the last several Republican's terms is that the disasters they cause don't really impact people for years.

Tax cuts for the rich, supreme court justices, cutting interest rates, gutting social services.

Those things take years or decades to manifest, so when people see the problems, they can't properly assign the blame where it belongs.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago

It’s specifically the gutting of benefits his voters use, yet they remain faithful. Fucking bewildering.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Trump repealed 112 environmental regulations. Biden is enacting new ones.

Trump repealed civil and trans rights. Biden replaced them.

Trump repealed net neutrality. Biden replaced it.

Trump gave corporations and the wealthy longer and larger tax cuts than the working class. Biden is replenishing the deficit off of corporations and the wealthy while cutting taxes for middle and low income workers.

Trump installed the conservative and oppressive members of the Supreme Court that are systematically removing our existing rights.

I could go all day, but you get the point.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

This is CNN's pet pollster & they are rated as 78th in accuracy on fiverthirtyeight, with 1st being the most accurate.

I'm also curious if this poll actually asked who you were voting for or if it just asked you how you feel about politicians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Your comment is appearing as 1 on my end.

78th out of how many?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How legit is 538 now after Nate Silver’s departure?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Nate has been pretty clocked out for the past few years so while the quality has declined I think it's more due to that enthusiastic team falling apart.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

55% of “all Americans” who respond to polls.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All Americans who are registered to vote with land lines who answer unknown callers and like to talk about their politics

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I have a related degree.

The study was conducted for CNN via web and telephone on the SSRS Opinion Panel, a nationally representative panel of U.S. adults ages 18 or older recruited using probability-based sampling techniques.

BUT...

In a January 2021 poll taken just before Trump left office and days after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, 55% considered his time as president a failure.

Relevant bit:

Unless otherwise noted, results beginning with the August 3-6, 2017 survey and ending with the April 21-26, 2021 survey are from polls conducted by SSRS via telephone only

TLDR: doubt those polls are representative.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

1,000,000 Americans dead... Huge success!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

1,000,000 so far

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

It was super cool and normal to have:

so many people dying each week from a virus that they had refrigeration trucks filled with corpses because the funeral homes couldn't keep up.

Or placing family members in important roles, stealing whatever wasn't nailed down, and selling out our countries national secrets

Or the president giving what amounts to a nightly hand job to every scumbag dictator

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Obviously 55% of Americans may find Prevagen helpful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

CNN didn't poll all Americans so they can fuck off with that shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You don't need to poll everyone to get relatively accurate polling results.

I have a related degree, it is possible with the necessary caveats, margins of error and confidence intervals. Statistics is a wonderful thing.

This being said, I actually read the full 77 page document they linked to, and if I'm not mistaken the 55% comes from a 2021 telephone poll. Obviously phone only polls are likely to be biased, even if you correct for demographic factors like age.

Then again, inflation is a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Textbook statistics don't really hold when you have a huge selection bias, as just about any poll does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Textbook statistics don’t really hold when you have a huge selection bias, as just about any poll does.

Meh. Often quite accurate, if you read the small print and caveats. It's not 1980. Good pollsters don't just do landline surveys, they correct for demographic factors, and are transparent about flaws and limitations.

IME the problem is usually how the media reports on said polling.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Probably inflation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yea I'm calling full bullshit on that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd suggest going to Florida - I'm not agreeing with those 55% but there's a fuck ton of people with an extremely delusional impression of Trump's term.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

They remember gas prices being low for a hot second when no one was driving due to the pandemic and that's all that matters to them and their lifted f-150

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

The data is skewed; they haven't controlled for Republicans knowing what words mean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Eventually I will have blocked all the fascist accounts... right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

These polls get more laughable the longer this goes on. They keep calling boomers, because no one else answers their damn phone, and reporting on what they were told.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I know millennials who have absolutely lost their minds and certainly would have been among that 55%.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Ah yes my ~~friends~~ who managed to catch COVID 3-4 times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I haven't lost my mind ... yet ... but I would absolutely choose the most batshit insane stuff to tell these people if they ever called.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

This is fine ppl need to be worried so they will vote...rather have these stories than Biden 10 pts ahead in the polls etc...plus we all know how wrong polls can be ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Education has failed in America.