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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

'The artist, the artist, the artist! And whoever owns their corpse. Same difference, right? Just semantics.'

Every fucking thread with you cultists. Do you listen to yourself?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Lmao, I don't even like Tolkiens work...

Nor do I agree with copyright law.

However; simply disagreeing with reality doesn't change it.

But; go ahead and continue to personally attack strangers on the internet instead of actually working towards the change you want to see. I'm sure it'll be effective.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't think that for the copyright laws to change we also need to change how we view it? How could you be properly critical of the copyright law if you refuse to make the distinction necessary for a certain type of criticism?

I get the "that's not how the world is" argument, but you can't talk about how the world could/should be by using only the word that describe the current state of the world. If you want to be critical of the existing system you need to develop a vocabulary that allows for such criticism.

For instance if you don't make the distinction between the creator and copyright holder you can't make criticism such as "you shouldn't be able to copyright works that you haven't created". You can't tell the difference between copyright owned by the creator and copyright owned by copyright owner because those two people are indistinguishable, so the entire criticism becomes nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the estate had gone after the author, this would be a very different conversation; but that's not what happened. The author chose to involve Tolkiens estate, knowing the current climate around copyright.

I struggle to find sympathy for that.

Then you add on direct personal insults instead of constructive conversation and I completely check out. It's not worth my energy to have a discussion with such people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You've clearly already checked out considering I'm not even the person who insulted you. Here's an idea, maybe don't partake in conversations you're not going to bother to even pay attention. I guarantee you'll automatically come across as less of an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not even the person who insulted you

I'm aware, the reply was still directed at you.

You've clearly already checked out

Yup, that's what I just said.

maybe don't partake in conversations you're not going to bother to even pay attention.

You're the third party entering the thread I created and a conversation I was having with someone else, long after I've clearly checked out.

Maybe don't involve yourself in other people's conversations and then expect their full attention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Working toward change, but not making normative statements or highlighting problems in rationale. Obviously a real copyright reformist goes around tutting at those "semantics" while parroting the status quo.

Troll harder.