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Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: ‘We took steps to protect our users’ (www.theverge.com)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For those not in the loop, why? It seems like people who want to use Apple products would just buy a iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Those of use who have friends or groups of friends that use iPhones but us ourselves do not. In the US, iMessage is the #1 way to create a group chat, and if you don't have an iPhone you're often just excluded and rely on someone else to update you about plans, etc.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Apple is dumb but if iMessage is the reason somebody cant be fucked to message you id rethink those friends.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

If I had friends that would rather exclude me from communication than either use a different app or find some way to include me then I would absolutely not want those people in my life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, in the UK WhatsApp is the default

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's worse as it doesn't even have sms

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You would be right if SMS was still relevant in Europe (and asia and africa, I think). That would be kind of like saying a phone isn't very good because it doesn't support usenet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well nothing else is standardized in the same way SMS is. I don't want to be forced into one application. SMS and MMS are older but they work across all devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of standardized communication protocols. There are far less in the smartphone world, which is why we have this problem. Imagine if you couldn't do voice calls between AT&T and Comcast, North America and Europe, or Apple and Android. Now why on earth would anyone think that text messaging should be that way, or shouldn't have been standardized decades ago?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Maybe I'm missing your point. You can make calls anywhere because its a standard. It doesn't matter if you have a flip phone, android, apple or something totally different. It just works. Additionally everyone uses it already so you don't need to try to convert people to a new standard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You can create a group chat using standard MMS. I have never heard of this being a problem.

Like I said, maybe I'm out of the loop or just lucky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Some of us like control over our hardware but still want feature parity with our friends and family.