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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (35 children)

I think it's a bit crazy to create a paid service on top of a reverse engineered product that isn't static. Indivious, NewPipe and other youtube frontends aren't going to create a paid youtube frontend, because they know Google could kill that at any point. Google could dedicate a full team to making youtube frontends non-functional.

Apple has a much bigger incentive to derail iMessage alternatives because they know that dumb parents have taught their kids how to live in a closed ecosystem and be slaves to Apple. 87% of USAian teenagers use Apple, which means it's only a matter of time before Apple becomes the dominant player on the market. If you want to keep making fat stacks of cash, the best thing you can do is control the market, which means killing of competition.

The only reason Apple would ever stop killing competitors is if it became legally and financially detrimental to do so. They'd have to reach Microsoft levels of antitrust and bad press before even considering backpedaling.

Everyone buying their products is helping Apple along to their goal of market dominance.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (3 children)

87% of teenagers use Apple

Do you mean US American teenagers, or North American teenagers, or who exactly? Surely that can't be global?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago

That stat came from an article that made the rounds a few weeks ago that cited a phone survey of 1000 or so kids in one small part of the US. Small, poorly controlled sample size, so bad data.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It isn't. As far as I know, iMessage is irrelevant in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

At least here in Germany whattsapp is the standard. Apple has a phone market share if ~30%. In other countries the Facebook messenger is also quite important afaik.

But apple somehow managed to have pretty much all schools forcing their students to get an IPad. So the apple market share is increasing. I can not tell you how furious that makes me. Every parent has to buy one (or several) of those, so their children can use the most basic teaching apps, that any 100€ tablet could easily run. Poor children get an IPad on tax payers money, so I basically pay for my own children's IPads and then a part of my tax money also flows to apple. I just wonder who (except Apple) got rich on that deal... I fxxxing hate politicians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Telegram is the standard in Eastern Europe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, lemme edit it. USAian kids

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The correct term for that is American by the way, not USAian.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean I totally get the annoyance of American being overloaded for both US person and of the American continents, but USAian ain't the solution lol that kind of sucks (hard to say, no history to it, etc)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Give me a term less ambiguous than "American" and I might use it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

American is pretty unambiguous. What are you getting it mixed up with? No one else uses it. If you hear American, do you have to run through a list of other countries asking them which they are from? Of not, it's unambiguous.

You could argue that it shouldn't be the pronoun for a US citizen, but that's a different argument than it being ambiguous.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago

Whatever adjective makes you feel better: appropriate, apt, fitting, correct, modest, less expansive, less assuming, less imperious, less opulent, less grandiose, less egocentric, less narcissistic

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No thanks. The USA doesn't represent all of North and South America.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I never said it does. I just said it's the correct word. It's not confusing or ambiguous. Only one country uses it. It also does represent multiple states in the americas, hence the name.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If that's the correct word to you, fine, use it. I won't. Just because one country assumes it can be eponymous with not just one, but two entire continents, doesn't make it right, nor do I have to agree with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And I guess South African should be something else, because there are other states in southern Africa? Language doesn't really care about being "correct" with terms. It cares about being understandable. No one knows what USAian is. Everyone knows what American is. There isn't really any debate anywhere around what to call people from the United States of America, even among other American nations.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And I guess South African should be something else, because there are other states in southern Africa?

You are correct, it should be something else. To agree on what is pretty difficult though. Azania has been suggested, but there are 12 official languages that probably have their own terms. I won't even attempt to guess how many different tribes were brutally merged into one country by imperialists when they drew the borders to call it South Africa. It wouldn't surprise me if they did rename themselves someday.

Even India doesn't want to be called India. There's a growing movement for it to be called Bharat.

No one knows what USAian is

Funny that, I didn't have to explain to anyone what it is because the immediate reaction by people like you was "that's not how you say 'American' ".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funny that, I didn't have to explain to anyone what it is because the immediate reaction by people like you was "that's not how you say 'American' ".

You could have called them anything and I would have known what you were talking about because of the context. The same context you used to guess "USAian" was available to everyone else.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

So it was context alone, was it? Using the acronym USA in an adjective referring to something from the USA didn't clue you in at all. Just the context. Without it your reasoning would've completely led you astray and the sentence would've become unquestionably incomprehensible.

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