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Or maybe they will launch Win 12 with optional TPM support.

Imho making the OS(es) TPM only cannot be good for their business, many people are still on Win 10 with no intention to switch, since their motheboard does not support TPM and do not want to upgrade PC / waste PCI-E slot on TPM extension.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

No chance.

You concentrate on the TPM but ignore the CPU requirements...? If you have a CPU that is up to spec, you have a TPM - they're built in the CPU. Most people just need to turn it on in the BIOS (or update their BIOS as motherboard manufacturers have turned on the TPM as "Windows 11 support")

The truth of it is, every "jump" OS, i.e. 95, XP, 7, 10 has run really poorly on >5 year old chips at the time of launching. And MS got panned at "how slow" is was. But it was also the norm to update your PC more often. Now speed increases have slowed and Moore's Law has ended, it's about security and performance hit of said security. The truth is, the kernel hardening and malware protection and encryption built into 11 to make it far less likely to get infected than 10 and 7 means it needs the hardware support to do it. Without it, it runs far slower or is less secure. Neither anyone wants.

When 10 support ends in 2 years time, the lowest supported processor for 11 will be nearly 9 years old...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I have an INTEL I9-10850K installed on a MSI MAG Z490 mobo that I bought in 2020 and neither have A TPM.

What is your definition of 'up to spec'?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

30 seconds on Google would've answered your question.

The TPM is part of the Intel Management Engine in your CPU.

In your motherboard UEFI firmware, goto Security - Trusted Computing and enable Security Device support.

Et voilà.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yep, you're right I can enable it.

I was going off of MSI's spec page for my motherboard and it says it has a connector for the TPM module so I assumed that meant it wasn't there by default.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

To quote Under Siege 2 "assumption is the mother of all fuck ups".

3 years, dude! 😁

Enjoy giving Windows 11 a proper spin. I recommend choosing "English (World)" as the language/location, then you don't get any of the post install bloat / sponsored apps, etc installed too. Then when you log in, just change your locale to the correct one if you want to use the Microsoft Store. Or don't, if you want that to remain disabled.

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