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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"You are a waste of time at best" "You're too lazy to seek out information"

Read the comment you replied to. It's a single sentence. I cannot state it any simpler.

No I do not know the entire history of immigration legislation, even pertaining to the US. Yes I know causes of immigration, but likely not all of them. Yes I know what I don't know, which is why I don't debate about immigration. I know it is entirely too difficult for people seeking to immigrate OR seek asylum in the US to become citizens, and I'd go as far to say it's impossible for most. Yes we need to fix our southern border, because we are actively treating immigrants like trash and not humans seeking a better life. Open borders, for the most part, are good borders. And no I did not read the other poster's comments.

Not get the fuck off your high horse.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't use you correctly in my previous comment. I meant in order to have a conversation about a particular topic, we have to go through all the prior assumptions to even begin a conversation. I did not mean to ask you in particular about immigration (and the other poster is not from the US), I was pointing out how much education and discussion must be had. The reason I brought up those points is if you were to look up the immigration laws passed in the early 1900s they were explicitly racist. If you look up the repercussions of immigrants on communities, they are mostly very positive. If you find out about western international policies and the displacement of people due to those policies, you'll find most immigration is driven from instability caused by those policies. All of which is to say that immigration is a non-issue. Yet its a conservative talking point you all want to discuss, incessantly, because it plays well with xenophobic racists.

I have yet to see a conservative policy that is defensible in any way. The only thing they're right about is yes, if you give power and money to corporations the stock market goes up.