A few points:

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First things first:

• Russia invaded Ukraine.
• They can stop the war at any time they want.

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The peace terms Russia offers is the equivalent of me telling you that I'm going to beat the shit out of you if you don't give me a room of your house and stop talking to your neighbours. Obviously you won't accept my terms, not because you want to fight with me, but because my terms are not acceptable to you.

I really fail to see why would anyone support these type of invasions where one side just annexes land because they can. Would you support it too if it was the US? I wouldn't.

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The "little green men" - later confirmed by Putin to be Russian - were not invited by anyone. A group of people inviting someone to annex them is also not a justification for an invasion. That's not how international law works nor would you accept that justification from other countries.

If it walks like and invasion and quacks like an invasion, then it's an invasion. Let's not pretend otherwise. Putin's own version of history even justifies all this because it's all "Russian land" anyway.

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I really don't like Nazis, Ukrainians or not. The problem with invading because of them is that Russia has the same type of crowd, which following the logic promoted people like you means that any country can now invade Russia, as they also have a "nazi problem", not only in political parties, but also in Ultra groups and "philosophers". Well, unlike you, I don't think we should be invading countries because they have some ultra nationalistic groups... so I'm not going to support any invasion of Russia either.

I'd also like to remind you that the far right party had less than 2% of the votes in the 2019 election. If less than 2% is a signal that the country is full of nazis, then maybe I don't know how % work.

The now very famous Azov Battalion (thanks Russia for creating some martyrs, like wtf?) was created in May 2014. What's the context though? In February, Russia took over Crimea and started shit in the east, confirmed by people like Igor Girkin. The bloated, weak, and corrupt Ukrainian army was shitting their pants and the usual groups got together to fight. It wasn't only the far right though, you even had far left anarchists doing the same. I don't know why this is a surprise... who's going to stand and fight if not those with more extreme views?

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I don't know if the USA was behind the coup, in any case, with Russia's interventions in Belarus and Kazakhstan that seems to be acceptable from their point of view.

What I know is things went to shit when the then president Viktor Yanukovych did a 180º turn on the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement and decided to do an agreement with Russia instead. Maybe you'll blame the US for that decision, I don't know, but that's when the protests, Maidan, etc, happened.

In any case, Ukraine had laws and the new government and elections followed that law. It's just what it is, we don't have to like it. And it's certainly none of Russia's business.

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NATO had an open door policy from the start. I know this, you should know this, and Putin certainly knows this. The policy doesn't change. Nor it should change. We don't tell Russia's CSTO to change their rules, they don't tell us to change our rules. It's simple to understand.

Ukraine has been trying to join NATO from the early 2000s. Are they in NATO? No, of course they are not. The chances of me joining NATO today are higher than Ukraine's chances in 2014, yet Russia did what they did.

Russia invaded Ukraine, but not because NATO kept repeating the same "we will consider any application" talk they've been repeating from the start. Nothing changed. Russia started a war - not NATO - and as grown ups they also need to accept the consequences of their decisions.

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because no great power ever allows foreign military threats to amass on its borders

I thought it was because of the Nazis? And I'm sorry, where's the "great power" here?

Reminds me of the UK after WW2. Still acting like they were rich, powerful, and had an empire. Russia needs to have a good look at themselves. They are not the Soviet Union or are in the US or China's league. We all need a reality check sometimes, hopefully this will be theirs.

Also, and while with many differences and a weird past, not even during the Cuban missile crisis did the US invaded Cuba. Shit only almost hit the fan because of the nukes, not because Soviet troops were there... and they were there for a long time before that.

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What’s happening is that the US has gotten its latest war that it’s been pushing for for decades. It’s always the USA, always has been, except this time, right?

Chechnya, Georgia... yes, it must be always the US forcing Russia to start wars. It's never Russia's fault, the poor guys just can't control themselves and have to wage war on everyone around them.

Next we'll blame any war in the Pacific on the US too when China decides to occupy some random island that doesn't belong to them, because of course China was "forced" to be aggressive. Their claims over the south china sea that overlap territorial waters of other countries? All the US fault! Can't you see they are being oppressed for gods sake!!!! /s

It's always everyone else's fault. The US should start doing the same. Vietnam? It's all the Soviet's fault. Iraq? I don't know, maybe blame Iran or something 🤷‍♂️. I'm joking, they shouldn't do that.

What about taking responsibility for our actions? Russia decided to invade Ukraine. No need to be so defensive about it, they started the war, it's them that crossed the border in 2014 and 2022. The way some of you talk it's as if Ukraine/NATO/US invaded Russia, but no, Russia did it.

[I'd really like to continue this conversation about how Russia is totally blameless for the war they started (lol), but I have more important things to do. I'll leave the thread here.]