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The media won't give me great answers to this question and I think this I trust this community more, thus I want to know from you. Also, I have heard reports that Russia was winning the war, if that's true, did the west miscalculate the situation by allowing diplomacy to take a backseat and allowing Ukraine to a large plethora of military resources?

PS: I realize there are many casualties on both sides and I am not trying to downplay the suffering, but I am curious as to how it is going for Ukraine. Right now I am hearing ever louder calls of Russia winning, those have existed forever, but they seem to have grown louder now, so I was wondering what you thought about it. Also, I am somewhat concerned of allowing a dictatorship to just erase at it's convenience a free and democratic country.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Came here to say this.

winners: arms manufacturers and dealers, "defense" industry, military-industrial complex

losers: soldiers, civilians

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Add people like Putin, oligarchs, etc. To losers, add just about everyone else, the climate, any actually important social or economic program as billions of money are burned on an unnecessary pyre for someone's ego, etc etc etc.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is Putin really a winner tho? They almost had a coup. I mean if the war was going amazingly well, but their economy is shit, they're isolated, and they are in stale mate with an enemy they should dominate...