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[–] [email protected] 121 points 9 months ago (5 children)

You shouldn't have to pay tips. Which part of the world entertains this shenanigans?

[–] [email protected] 159 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Funnily enough it could be left as Aliens.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, basically the only ones that feel like they have to tip are US citizens... and Canada most probably.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's becoming a lot bigger in the UK and it sucks, it's just built into receipts everywhere which makes it really awkward to decline. It's ulalso creeping up from the standard 10%.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It's not consistent, McDonalds wouldn't have a tip but tipping in an independent fast food place isn't uncommon big cities.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Canada is debatably worse than the US when it comes to tipping. In the US, wait staff are paid less than minimum wage so it makes sense to tip them (even though the system should change),, but in Canada they is no such exception and the minimum prompt is 18%.

Also, the other day Subway prompted me to tip...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

US Subway store point of sale systems are asking for tips as well now. It’s really off putting. I hope no one starts tipping there, it’s already too expensive for what you get.

No need to feed to the problem with this business practice. I only tip those with occupations that have already required tips prior to the pandemic. It’s like the existing nuclear pacts. No one is allowed to start obtaining nukes if they didn’t have any before!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

While Canada has no explicit exception to the minumum wage law, the minimum wage in Canada is still laughable and is absolutely not survivable for how expensive living here is.

Though the solution here is not tipping, which ignores every other customer service and """unskilled""" labour worker that isn't in food service. It should be raising the minimum wage to a post inflation value that reflects current costs of living, and committing to continuously updating it so it stays even with inflation and rising costs in general (not unheard of, some European countries for example use a formula to calculate every year's minimum wage based on current inflation and cost of living). Actually, we shouldn't have a single national minimum wage but one depending on where you live so it reflects your actual survival expenses. Both Vancouver and Vanderhoof enjoy fast food and coffee shops but the employees in the former have a much harder time living in the city they work in than the latter despite doing the same work and making the same contribution to their fellow residents (or if nothing else, they do more work in a larger city with more people while not being able to afford the larger city).

And yeah, Subway's been doing that for a while, at least in the part of Canada I am.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

The US where it is ethical to barely pay your employees

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Czech Republic does. Don't know how common it is in other European countries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Germany does. I tipped 15% my first time at a german restaurant (because waitresses there have the same minimum wage as any other worker and the reason I tip 20% in the US is because they only make $2/hr here) and the waitress literally asked me if she did something wrong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Probably because you tipped more than expected. Tips in Germany are usually 5–10 % and not mandatory. Traditionally the bill was rounded to the next whole number, and the tip was the difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Interesting, that's certainly possible. But why would she think she did something wrong if I tipped more than she expected?

Tbf I'm not used to waitstaff commenting at all on tips, it was weird to me just that she watched me press the number on the card reader and then said something about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

The worst part is that many businesses are introducing this tipping scheme.