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Screenshot of QEMU VM showing an ASCII Gentoo Logo + system info

I followed Mental Outlaw's 2019 guide and followed the official handbook to get up-to-date instructions and tailored instructions for my system, the process took about 4 hours however I did go out for a nice walk while my kernel was compiling. Overall I enjoyed the process and learnt a lot about the Linux kernel while doing it.

I'm planning on installing it to my hardware soon, this was to get a feel for the process in a non-destructive way.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How much maintenance does Gentoo need once installed? I don't mind a complicated install but it's the constant tinkering I can't deal with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you've done arch, it's like long arch

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gentoo probably doesn't have all packages. One of the reasons I love Arch is because it almost always has any package in the AUR. It's a lot more work to try and get something installed on Ubuntu related distros. They try to keep up by using snaps and stuff but it's still no comparison. Arch has everything.

Still it's gets a bit boring now since I know it so well, so want to try Gentoo at some point also.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

one of the reasons I love gentoo is how easy it is to package things for it.

You know how for pkgbuilds you have to explictly write out the whole configure make make install stuff that pretty much every package uses some variation on? Gentoo abstracts that out to libraries (eclasses) that handle that sort of thing for each build system so you can focus down on anything unique to the package, like build system options.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Also sounds really cool.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gentoo has overlays which are similar to AUR, I haven't felt like I'm missing packages compared to when I ran arch

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Ok cool, even more interested in trying it now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I did when I was new to Linux, several times. It was an awesome learning experience.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not much. Updates take a bit longer because you're compiling, although Gentoo now has an official binary package host if you want to skip that step - you'll only compile things that you've changed compile-time features to the extent that they don't match the binhost now!

You don't need to constantly tinker to keep the system running, at least, news is good for major changes, and we have a good 'config file changed' system.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gentoo now has an official binary package host

With some limitations:

The binhost packages have the USE flags set as in an unmodified 17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd profile (with the exception of USE=bindist). The packages can be used on all amd64 profiles that differ from desktop/plasma/systemd only by USE flag settings. This includes 17.1, 17.1/desktop/*, 17.1/no-multilib, 17.1/systemd, but not anything containing selinux, hardened, developer, musl, or a different profile version such as 17.0.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm not talking about the experimental one. Keep an eye on news.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haven't seen any news about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't have anything concrete to point you at, only conversations with developers, but the binhost project seems to have produced an official binhost that is just pending documentation and the formal announcement. :)

Edit: There's a cool graph here that seems to line up with when I figure the non-experimental binhost started coming online with package numbers and things: https://www.akhuettel.de/~huettel/plots/mirrors/binpackages-month.png

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's official now. ;)