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[–] [email protected] 119 points 11 months ago (57 children)

Maybe roll out some models people can afford? It's all SUVs that start around $45k, but they built only a few of those base models. The ones actually available are premium trims that go for $65k and might peak around $100k. They were able to sell out for 6 months, and then that market was saturated. Now they stand around asking why nobody buys their cars.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (34 children)

Huh? There are a ton of small EVs that are much cheaper than that. The Nissan Leaf, for example.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nissan leaf, Chevy bolt (which won't be sold next year) and...??? Everything else is at least 35k starting.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The Bolt has an odd marketing approach behind it. While it may be true that the Bolt will technically be discontinued, there will be its direct successor (built on the Ultium platform)

Also, as a practical matter, you can cut $7500 off the price of any new EV in the US because of the tax incentive.

There is a very real reason why certain classes of cars are EV and not others- you have to be able to charge at home/work to have a good experience. That normally means having a garage, often in a single family house. Apartment dwellers need not apply. Unfortunately, these are also the ones that buy compact cars, meaning there isn't much of a market. The suburbanites that are eligible to charge at home mostly buy SUVs and more expensive sedans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As I understand it, the $7.5k isn't any EV, but EVs that were assembled/built primarily in the US. Many weren't compliant with that legislation. Not out of spite or anything, but because manufacturing wasn't quite ready to comply. That led to a number of vehicles sitting ineligible for the 7.5k break. As well as consumer confusion over which ones could be discounted. Overall, a transitional growing pain for a crappy industry that relies on monthly sales.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

You are correct, and the exact definition/requirement has changed a few times. But many (most?) EVs for sale in the US are eligible. The vehicles themselves are assembled in the US, the big sticking point was the battery. It's something that gets buried in the details rather than advertised at the top. I can confirm the Chevy Bolt is advertised at ~$35k, but in the details you can see that it's eligible for the rebate, effectively bringing it down to ~$27.5k.

A detail to confirm when shopping, but one that is common.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

A lot of trucks and SUVs these days are so big they don't even fit in garages.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Renault Zoe is an other. Was 30k like 5-6 years ago

Cars you won't see on the US market of course.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I got ahold of a British car magazine about 20 years ago and was really sad to see all of the awesome small cars and trucks we don't get because Americans are dumb.

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