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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I think the occupy movement fell apart partly due to the fact that it never really coalesced around any sort of leadership group or figurehead. The list issues kept getting longer, the list of desired changes kept getting ever more diverse and contradictory, and there was very rarely anyone who could articulately explain to the general public what the movement was about.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

@IrateAnteater @wizardbeard I think it was crushed by police repression and contrary to what you believe, I believe not having figure heads was the main strength of the movement

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not having any sort of centralized leadership is a double edged sword. Your movement gains resistance to authorities being able to knock out the movement with a couple arrests, but your movement becomes much more prone to fizzling out of you can't somehow maintain focus, which is what happened to the Occupy movement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

@IrateAnteater what are some good examples of somewhat successful movements with leaders?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Open a history book. The examples will usually be referred to as "revolutions". The French Revolution, American Revolution, Russian Revolution. For something more modern, look at the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa.

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