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The only people using human shields are the IDF
This is unquestionably false.
You can make an extremely compelling argument about the horrors that the govt of Israel and the IDF are doing without resorting to obvious falsehoods made in defence of Hamas.
I’m not saying we need to adopt some “all sides bad” enlightened centrism bullshit. If you want to focus only on the atrocities of the govt of Israel because that’s your passion: go for it. Call them out for what they are.
But please don’t defend Hamas or pretend they aren’t also committing atrocities. They do use human shields, constantly. And the atrocities done by Hamas do not take away from the absolute horrors of what the government of Israel is actively committing.
When these falsehoods emerge, it makes the argument against Israel appear delusional and undercuts your implied objective. And it’s not necessary! There is so much widespread harm that we can point to, we don’t need spread falsehoods for that.
Bruh it’s happened so much there’s an Israeli High Court case that specifically forbids the practice. Hasn’t prevented the practice, there are multiple documented instances, from different conflicts, that the Jewish group B’Tslem has a white paper on just the subject of IDF using human shields:
I am not saying that Israel and the IDF have not used human shields. They absolutely do and you’re 100% correct to condemn this. And I join you in this condemnation.
What am also saying is that people should stop lying in order to defend Hamas. Because you can condemn the govt of Israel without doing that. And the condemnation is more compelling when it’s not accompanied with lies of convenience.
Your comment here being a good example of how that’s done properly. Everything you said is true and it paints a damning picture that is impossible to argue against.
Listen idiot, Gaza is the size of Manhattan with the same density. Israel can blow your entire neighborhood simply because they suspect a hamas goon will be there. They're using "human shield" simply by being alive and not standing on a hill so they can conveniently be killed.
Except that they provided actual evidence of Israel using human shields, while all you've done is go "trust me bro, Israel would never lie to you"
I have repeatedly and consistently agreed that Israel uses human shields, because it is true.
You know just as well as I do that Hamas uses their own people as human shields. Their entire operation is to hide amongst their civilian population and infrastructure and use that as cover to attack and kill.
The difference is that you agree with the objectives of Hamas, and so you don’t want to acknowledge the horrors of the tactics they use. Seeing the situation as black and white with “your side” as the unassailable heroes and the “other side” as villains.
But I reject this childish outlook, because it’s not a movie it’s real life. The govt of Israel are indeed villains, but so are Hamas.
I see that there are still no links to evidence of Hamas using human shields in your post, and so I'm not reading it.