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Holy shit can you guys imagine if the jury rules “not guilty, because you got the wrong fucking guy”? Luigi could probably run in 2028 and win.
He'd never defeat the Democrats' list of very strong candidates.
Am I dumb or is AOC not an option
She is 100% an option, but not for the current Democrat party. They will push her our like they did Sanders.
They'd vote Trump before voting for AOC. At least that's my take from abroad.
And mine from not abroad.
The Dems are controlled opposition who are funded by the billionaires just like the Rs.
Democratic party needs to split up. Bernie has been calling on more senators and congressmen to go independent, but none have jumped off the rotten DNC ship.
We need the infrastructure. The parties are too entrenched in law and election structures...
So the only choice is to tea party them, build a left wing of the party and take over. And I think that's what AOC and Bernie are running around doing, but it's going to take time
In the meantime, we need to resist
Bernie has been independent for essentially his entire career. Why is it possible for him, but not others?
And how much control does Bernie and the other independents have? Not much... He generally votes with the Democrats and occasionally speaks out
We don't need another 5 independents. We need a couple dozen in a cohesive voting block. We need enough that Democrats will be forced to negotiate with them (because maga won't)
It's very hard to win as an independent, but it can be done. We need more then that though - we need a party, we need the network of organizers, the infrastructure for donations, and to integrate with 50 slightly different systems for elections
And most importantly, you need name recognition
All these things would take years of maintained effort to establish, but they exist - better to become a key faction of the democratic party than to compete with them directly
Precisely because he's been in politics since the 80s and is a brand name in Vermont.
And he still caucuses with the Dems. He didn't run for president as an independent. He knows the perils of appearing as a spoiler candidate as well as any Stein or Nader.
This. I've been saying for a bit now that we need our own tea party movement to push the DNC left
There's an inherent strategic advantage to claiming the party brand, because so much has been invested in raising its name recognition.
Very hard to get people to throw away a shot at a winnable primary in pursuit of a much more difficult independent run.
And Biden.
After Kamala there's no way they'll have another female candidate. The American people would rather vote for all the adjectives that describe Trump than a woman.
If that's the lesson dems took from the election, dems are going to lose again.
Stop pushing far right republicans as the dem nominees, regardless of their supposed genitals.
That's exactly why they would run another woman candidate. You don't think the dems are trying to win, do you?
Clinton and Harris are just fake smiles on a status quo neoliberal platform. Of course that didn't go anywhere. Elizabeth Warren might have stood a chance. AOC is outright popular now but I don't think she would have won, yet.
It was quite a blow to my "all humans are inherently good" mindset, I'm now going with "all humans probably have some deeply rooted cultural biases".
Why the fuck would you have thought this to begin with?
Maternal instincts, the lived experience of kindness between friends and neighbors, and the last 10,000 years of gradual but undeniable improvements in social equity could argue this point.
I might also argue that humans are fundamentally good, but still highly mutable. So a few bad apples really can spoil the bunch.
Which is extra funny given that candidates like Gretchen Witmer, Liz Warren, and AOC are some of their most popular candidates the party still has to offer.
Gruesome Newsom is going to clinch then nomination on a platform of "America is a fundamentally misogynistic nation" and liberals are going to waltz into 2028 screaming "Vote for us! We hate women more than the Republicans!"
Naw Gavin's career is sunk. That podcast sank him
I'll believe it when I see it. He's still got the Getty fortune and the Lib half of California media firmly behind him
True, but he's burned his bridges with the Left via transphobia and trying to court the Right, and with the Right by inviting Right Wingers to the podcast and then calling them Bible Thumpers while trying to court them.
He's got a life raft that'll prevent him from drowning overnight, but he took a swing at the big time and missed.
Lmao this guy thinks there will still be elections
There will still be elections -- they just won't be fair and legitimate elections.
50 States all went to the GOP... crazy how that happens now that Elon Musk counts the vote
Not 35 years of age or older enough
The law clearly doesn't matter anymore.
It does for the right/"wrong" people.
Only as long as those people keep pretending.
In reality everyone knows we can just do whatever.
So executing the rich and forcefully redistributing their wealth is a valid public policy now
I mean, we've been trying to do other things, but they won't play nice. I guess we need to exterminate a few, then offer the rest the opt-in to pay higher taxes as an alternative.
The landlords that were holding the Chinese economy hostage were given a chance to relinquish their properties, then they executed the ones who wouldn't.
It's only fair we give them an opportunity to surrender.
If orangeboi runs, Luigi should run.
More like repeat the same action that happened to the CEO of United Healthcare.
Can you imagine?
Orangeboi:
Moderator:
Luigi:
And then everyone clapped
*sigh*
A man can dream.
A man can dream.
*Bowser
And if he were to run for a house seat, and we get 2/3 of congress to vote for a package to do this, we could make him president by impeaching and removing POTUS, VP, and have him be speaker of the house and succeed into the presidency for a special term.
Wishful thinking but it would technically be constitutional. I've tossed this idea and many others in my head about how to get massive support across the country to accomplish something crazy bold like this but I could go on and on and there's lots of what ifs
Per the 1947 succession act if the speaker (or anyone else in the line of succession) fails to qualify, and age is a qualifier, it goes to next in line which would be the Secretary level cabinet positions.
I'd be very worried about Luigis politics outside of Healthcare. The jump to murder also does question whether he'd be able to make the compromises necessary to pass legislation. He grew up fairly rich iirc and I would like a president with a bit more life experience.
you mean 75 right?
That would be a dream.
Sanders was the compromise choice
He isn't old enough.
The oblique implication in my comment is that if orangeboi (illegally) runs for a third term, then it also does not matter if Luigi (illegally) runs when he’s too young
Why not? He already illegally ran in 2024, and was illegally inaugurated...
14th Amendment violater
lol wow uh… you know, I guess you do have a point there 🫠