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It's official, red alerts have gone out across the entire country of Brazil as the heat index hits 137F. The high temperature combined with humidity has made it impossible for most people to carry out their normal lives. There's already reports of power outages. People can't work. They can't run errands. They can barely sleep. It's not even summer there yet.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That graph has nothing to do with sequester rates, which is what forests are about.

Forests are a big part of the issue and we need to preserve them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Damn, sounds like people should consume less of the soy, meat and minerals produced in that area.

By the way, do you happen to know what happened to the 400 million acres in Europe and 300 million acres in the US that used to be forest in the 1800s?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, climate change was super well known then too, fantastic point 👍

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Very convenient for those countries that they get to keep all the economic benefit from deforestation and be among the biggest emitters while the people doing what they also did get snide comments implying they deserve to live in conditions unsuitable for humans because of the evils they're doing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you propose then? Make European countries accoutable for mistakes made 200 years ago? Even though most of them are doing really well to transition into green energy? What would that accomplish, exactly?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That would be a good first step, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

tax them, distribute the money to the global south. Less disposable income means less consumption, and those funds can be put to use building a green economy in the developing world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No one on this planet currently had anything to do with any of this, we actually live in year 2023 where we know the consequences of those decisions so why the does that mean we can should make the same mistakes they made hundreds of years ago…they didn’t know any better, we do so we have to do better. Is that fair? No. Is that the hand we were dealt? Unfortunately yes.

We can either whine and justify doing the same shit over and over or we can be better and utilize the knowledge we now have and a choose a more responsible route.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah, yes, the fuck you got mine approach. That's a great climate strategy. Also how the consequences of colonialism, imperialism and slavery have been solved, so you know it's means-tested.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you’re not going act rational, you can’t solve any problems big or small. Climate change is a big one, if you burn down your forests it will worsen climate issues in your country. You have sovereignty to do so, but it ultimately hurts your progress as well as damages the global effort to address the effects of the changing climate.