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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Technically, all the colors are fake. They're just the halucinations of a brain trying to understand the input from sensory organs.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

That doesn't make them fake, in the same way that x can mean 2. You are merely representing a given value (in this case light within a certain electromagnetic spectrum) in a useful way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But is my red the same as your red? Hmmm?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

if two people can both point to red and agree that it's red, that's close enough. anything beyond that is just pointless esoteric debate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I disagree that it's pointless. I think it may be beneficial to humanity (eventually) to establish whether or not there is an objective reality which we all experience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

i agree, but that's a job for neuroscience, quantum mechanics, and psychology; not a pack of dorks on the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But I want to contribute to humanity in a meaningful way!

-me, a dork on the Fediverse nearly incapable of contributing to humanity in a meaninful way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hey now, you could be the person to force manufacturers to add a new type of warning label to random products!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

buy guns

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Working on it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

it's more in the philosophy ballpark, which shapes the interpretration of methodology and the consequences, in my humble opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But what if the dorks on the fediverse are scientists?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

then by all means

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There is no way to "establish whether or not there is an objective reality." It's a philosophical position. You either take the reality which we observe and study as part of the material sciences to be objective reality, or you don't believe it's objective reality and think it is all sort of invented in the "mind" somehow. Either position you take, you cannot prove or disprove either one, because even if you take the latter position, no evidence I present to you could change your mind because to be presented evidence would only mean for that evidence to appear in the mind, and thus wouldn't prove anything. The best argument we can make is just taking the reality we observe as indeed reality is just philosophically simpler, but that also requires you to philosophically value simplicity, which you cannot prove what philosophical principles we should value with science either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was a joke?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Some people see numbers instead/along with colors, and different people see different numbers, so I guess the colors might be different between people too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I would be way more surprised if people who saw numbers with colors all saw the same numbers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I hadn't thought about it that way.