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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure I can agree with that.

However, I think that is sort of a special case that's easy to resolve. It only comes up when they are already in the business of learning logical proofs & will likely be looking to learn from someone or a textbook who will most likely clear that up for them...

Chances are that person already has a baseline level of competency in logical thinking, or, if they don't, they soon will learn and are open to it. They've at least additionally already mastered the colloquial meaning of the phrase and are simply a bit overzealous with it's use (which should be reigned in as you aptly point out).

On the other hand, when people don't understand "you can't prove a negative" in social situations unrelated to formal logic, it's generally observed they are up to their eyeballs in conspiracy thinking and are so lost in magical thinking that they've abandoned even informal rule of thumb levels of logic.

Those are truly sad situations with deep (inter)personal, social, and political consequences, especially if they go on to harm others based on their misunderstandings.

Ironically it seems we both have less faith in the competence of others, albeit in different ways lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Fair points. The latter case is basically where my concern is.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Conversations like this is why Lemmy feels so much more refreshing than Reddit, so thank you for that... I hadn't realized how desperately I've missed the old internet

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Hah no worries. Thanks for being so reasonable yourself lmao.