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[–] [email protected] -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Most of those deported were members of well-known criminal gangs renowned for their brutality and penchant for murder. Do you care about any of their victims? If not, don't come to me with a sob story about human rights.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Source?

Just kidding, you couldn't prove that claim even if you wanted too...

Of course I care about the victims of gang violence. Only a monster wouldn't. But many of the asylum seekers who's rights are being deprived are trying to escape gang violence, and are instead being sent right back to it. Many of those being deported are not gang members, but innocent people who lived in the US their whole lives and are being sent to countries or prisons where they will be subjected to gang violence.

Only when it's convenient for your point do you bother to suddenly discover your compassion. What a great way to play with an appeal to emotion to justify dismissing the right to due process.

Here is the difference between you and me, I believe even gang members deserve their day in court. That we should all try our best to ensure the innocent are protected.

We can't do that by just deporting people without due process. We will drop balls we could have caught, mistakenly send innocent people to jails they don't belong in, to countries where they will be subjected to violence.

If they are guilty of gang violence, then let them suffer the consequences of their actions. But don't let the government just throw out a "trust me bro, they were illegal gang members frfr".

Civil rights have to be for everyone, or they can be taken away from anyone.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Well, if you're such a strong believer in due process, what do you think about Biden letting all of these people in without following the proper immigration procedures? Who do you think is more likely to enter the country illegally, honest people or those who are already criminals?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

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Again, you know you can't back up these claims.

And I believe that most people who "enter illegally" are those who can not obtain the resources to do so through official channels. Full stop.

And given that the Justice Department reports that illegal immigrants commit less crimes than citizens on average , the data supports the belief that illegal immigrants are more likely to only commit the crime of crossing illegally. Which begs the question if we should allow an easier and more supported path for these otherwise innocent and impoverished people to come into the country legally.

But we have veered very far into your feelings at this point (which sadly the facts don't care about), and you keep making unsupported claims to emotion, so it's probably time for you to go to bed. Eh champ? There will still be human rights for you to violate in the morning.

edit: It's cute you dropped the victims of gang violence point when you realized your points would lead to more gang violence. It's tough being you huh?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago

There will still be human rights for you to violate in the morning.

I appreciate your optimism.