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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's why I try to make dumb things smart, not replace the dumb with smart. Like, make the switch smart, not the bulb.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Along with making it backwards compatible. (Ie, control system goes down you can still operate just like a dumb system)

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Can't lock people into some service if you do that. They gotta have that recurring monthly revenue.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Aye. I did learn this the good old hard way.😁

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I agree with the overall sentiment, but a smart switch would be harder to change than a smart bulb most of the time. Smart switch would require electrical work to replace. A smart bulb can just be swapped. If anything the toilet is a good proxy. A smart flush means it won't manually flush. If they had done a smart fill you could just manually fill the tank with water.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. The "smart" necessarily causes some real world movent (opens a valve). Just design the physical action to be able to be performed both manually and electrically.

In this post it seems as though smart is being used to mean completely replacing the thing. I think that having both smart and dumb options is ideal, but in this particular context I think the reference point is that the smart object does not allow a manual override.

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

To be fair, if you had a water supply you could just chuck buckets of water down your toilet if the flush wasn’t working.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

True, but you could also add a switchbot to it. Ugly but simple and without electrical maintenance needed.