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since almost everybody I encounter here agrees that Javascript sucks, What should I learn to make good "web apps" with good performance ? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 2 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Here sucks is in the sense of suckless philosophy, I don't think everybody likes the suckless movement but I've seen that many people, me included, don't like how modern web apps look like (messenger and tiktok are like the worst). So if I want to make interactive web apps, what are the better technologies to not make the web shittier ?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Use TypeScript

While JS does suck, most of the people who complain endlessly about it are fairly inexperienced tbh. A lot has changed over the last 20 years and it's honestly rare to code in pure JS nowadays. You can't really escape it when doing frontend work anyways.

You can do a lot with modern css too, especially extensions like scss

The bigger problem imo is overuse of third party modules, especially through npm. That's how you get a massive amount of bloat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

hmm, npm is the package manager for ecosystem of js like pip of python, right ? exactly for an env called node.js? so it is better to use an alternative for it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

This. There has been a huge investment in the tooling around JS. Using TypeScript, you get the benefit of that ecosystem with a decent language.

It isn't perfect, but it's perfectly cromulent.