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since almost everybody I encounter here agrees that Javascript sucks, What should I learn to make good "web apps" with good performance ? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

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Here sucks is in the sense of suckless philosophy, I don't think everybody likes the suckless movement but I've seen that many people, me included, don't like how modern web apps look like (messenger and tiktok are like the worst). So if I want to make interactive web apps, what are the better technologies to not make the web shittier ?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

You can always write native apps or use rust. I don't recommend doing that unless perfectionism/being esoteric/learning is more important to you than just making the webapp.

The main issue with fb/TikTok is the 9 billion trackers and ads. So step 1. Don't do that.

Svelte/SolidJS are smaller/faster than react/ vue. React has the most tutorials, but I think vue is the easiest to learn.

Next, while working on your app (probably all of those use "vite" instead of web pack by now) meticulously watch your build size. Avoid installing giant dependencies if you can. If you have lots of options, pick libraries that are tree-shake-able. rollup-plugin-visualizer will help you visualize which Javascript file(s)/ dependencies are big. You'd be see surprised how many webapps that is basically 10kb of functionality ends up being 1MB of Javascript.

If your webapp is small you probably don't need to think too much more about this, but you could probably ask others to critique your code later.