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This is America's future. Conscription is in Project 2025 and make no mistakes about it. The Christian Nationalist Death Cult would love to send you to the front.
Nah I'm too trans to be let in even as a conscript. They would rather just kill me domestically 🎉
Nah, they'll just stick you right on the front line to catch bullets.
To fight for Russia against Ukraine or Israel against Iran. Maybe if they're in a good mood, you'll be able to choose which genocide you participate in.
Isn't conscription already a thing in USA? Many countries silently paused conscription but it's just there
Not since the 70's
That’s the other guys point. We haven’t used it since the 70s, but the system is still in place to be used. Easy to fire it up again.
My point was at least half or more of the US population has little-to-no-memory of what that was like.
My dad was drafted during the Vietnam era but I'm in my 50's and have no actual memory of that time.
I know it happened but I was really young when they stopped the draft and we've had several generations born since then who also have no memory of it.
It would be politically dangerous for a government to restart a draft absent an actual world war-type situation or a dictatorship.
That's what people don't understand about the Vietnam War. People were against the war, but if it was waged by volunteers, then most people would have accepted it grudgingly. It was the draft that made everybody lose their fucking minds.
Imagine being a teenaged boy in America, during the 60s, knowing that when you turn 18, you will be eligible for the draft. The government will literally kidnap you from the bedroom in your parents' house, where you have spent every night of your life. You've never experienced any aspect of adult life, you're probably a virgin, but now you're given a few weeks of basic training, and sent halfway across the world to a country you couldn't find on a globe a few months ago, to kill or be killed. The life expectancy of an inexperienced new draftee thrown into the war zone was extremely short.
Complicating the issue was that many fathers were supportive of the war, because they had fought in WWII, but that was a war with a clear reason and objective. Nobody could clearly articulate why we were in Vietnam, nor what would define a "victory."
Obviously, extreme fear defined every young man in America, as well as their families. HitlerPig and his henchmen love instilling fear into people, and a draft is a particularly insidious way to do that. I have no doubt that when HitlerPig launches his wars (there will almost certainly be more than one, it will be a World War, after all), he will gleefully demand a draft, and use it to threaten and punish his enemies.
I will say this unequivocally: There is no way that I will allow my son to be drafted into a HitlerPig war. And if somehow they get their hands on him, I will have nothing to lose, and will become a very dangerous individual. Of my personal red lines to not cross, that is my bightest and reddest.
Americans could still prevent that future if a few million of them got off their asses and took action against the fascist takeover of their country.
But that would get in the way of watching American idol, and HoneyBooBoo reruns, wouldn't it...
Kapo Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller has said that he wants to reduce the population of America from 335 million to 100 million people. An incompetently managed war that is wasteful of human lives is a perfect way to accomplish much of his objective.
The religious nutters will form a White Christian unit copying the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, march with the goose step and all of the sick fucks will have Jerusalem Cross tattoos.
Conscription will start after the US economy completely swirls down the shitter leaving all sorts of skid marks.
That’s why they made abortion illegal.
Lol have you seen kids these days? I'd be surprised if more than 15 percent are fit for service, and of that 15% maybe half would pass a drug screen.
Kids in the 1960s were the same, and the USA still sent them off to get killed, maimed, and traumatized for the rest of their lives.
It's a fucking depressing state of affairs....
No, childhood obesity is way up since then.
Fat people can still fly drones and kill political enemies
And catch bullets.
All in the name of... checks notes
Fighting communism.
Really puts into perspective who is pulling the strings over in the Land of Freedom. Here's a hint: their children are never the ones to die in a war.
It's genius, really. Convincing the working class to literally sacrifice their children for a system that supports the ruling class. Brilliant.
Have you seen what Russia is throwing out to get blown up? As long as you can absorb some rounds they don't care.
They won't care, they're just cannon fodder.
Remember, over the next decade, many jobs are going to be replaced by AI and robotics. All the technology exists to convert every fast food outlet to be fully automated. Imagine how many young, unskilled people will be unemployed when the fast food companies shift from humans to robots.
With all the coming automation, we could see a permanent unemployment rate of 30%, or even more. We will be faced with two solutions: Universal Basic Income (which will be very unpopular with the Sociopathic Oligarchs and MAGA), or reduce the population by the amount of the unemployment rate.
An incompetently managed war, with an unforgiving draft (unless you are a rich nepo-baby), is a perfect way to accomplish that.
According to this article, project 2025 doesn't do that. It proposes requiring students to take the military ASVAB test. Which honestly isn't the worst idea. In my high school they recommended people who didn't know what they wanted to do for a career to take it even if they weren't going into the military.
They are planning to make all public school kids take the test but not the private school kids. It will be for conscription. They will know where to throw your ass to make the meat grinder run better. That's the only reason for this bullshit
Believable, and on point for these fascists, but you got a source? OP does.
Private schools don't have to follow the same requirements as public schools already. The person above you is just inferring that since they're already separate in the current system, the new ASVAB requirement would also be separate. But until it becomes an actual law, it isn't super useful arguing hypotheticals in this context.
I think it's a very useful point to flag. These details are important.
Doesn't that just make it easier for the US to conscript people?
Just fail it so that you would need a waiver to join
That just means you are the cannon fodder style infantry. You'll be the guy sent out to catch a drone or two.
So you can be shuffled in with the grunts rather than the officers?
The military loves putting dumb-dumbs through basic and stacking them on the front lines to catch stray bullets.
I mean, you can also fail out at basic too IIRC.
Also, you need a college degree to be a commissioned officer.
You only fall out of basic if you're an invalid. The military is very good at beating compliance into anyone else.
You can absolutely get chaptered out for failing basic multiple times.
Given the degree of physical, psychological, and - not uncommonly - sexual abuse you experience along the way, I wouldn't recommend the experience.
You sound like you are objecting for the sake of objection. You have been provably wrong in certain cases.
I wouldn’t recommend the military either, but there are facts and then there are falsehoods. You have been treading on the side of falsehoods and that is mighty dangerous because abuse of all kinds does occur in the armed forces. However, the amount of incorrect information you have been touting may lead people to believe that the abuse suffered are falsehoods as well.
If you've been through basic or seen people who have, you'd recognize how difficult it is to fail out and how easy it is to simply be abused into a sufficient state of compliance.
Or if ever American says they’re gay, they’d never join the military because DEI and such.
Or just be black, brown, Asian, trans, a celebrity or rich. America doesn’t want any of that in the military either
They don't want poc or women to be career.
They want women pregnant, so they are "safe" in that sense. They want white officers commanding brown conscripts to go do the dying.
Just don't ace it or every branch of the military will start harassing you at home trying to get you to join.
It's a 3 hour aptitude test. Are you good at math? Are you good at electronics? Etc. I would imagine it's a minor speed bump to joining the military.
No physical component?
No. The hardest math is some insanely light algebra too. X = 5y kind of stuff.
It still opens the door to enlistment and being harassed to join the military, conning poor kids into making a mistake.
I mean, I was harassed to enlist despite actively going to college (officers usually get a commission after college), despite repeatedly telling them I was not interested and never taking the test.
Huh... They made all of us take it. But I went to school in a rural red state in the mid 90s.
You went to the shit schools, I went to school in the south, they gerrymandered them so the kids of poor parents took them while the rich kids didn't (and got actual schooling).
Yep 100% went to a shit school. I'd not be surprised if the asvab paid the school for each person that took it