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Every single person sent to El Salvador were innocent. Not a single one of them had their due process! This is all bullshit. ICE must be destroyed
Yep. Innocent until proven guilty, and not a single one of them was so much as indicted, much less charged or convicted. Blatant disregard for the constitution as well as human rights, everyone all the way up the chain of command needs to be prosecuted for this.
the fact that the democrats aren't filing articles of impeachment every single day tells you where they're at
You'd need ~~four~~ twenty Republican senators to convict. I can't imagine that happening.
It'd still be something. Bemoaning "oh there's no point because it's hopeless" gives these fuckers more fuel because the opposition is just etting it happen without any complaints.
It'd be like a cop kneeling on your neck and not bothering to scream "help I can't breathe! they're killing me!" because you've just accepted that they're going to suffocate you to death.
It would be something. Would it be the most effective use of their time? Unlikely.
"Something must be done, this is something, therefore this must be done" is a joke, not something to take seriously.
Feel free to offer your own brilliant alternatives that would be a more effective use of their time. You must have at least one since you're so confident that this isn't it.
If I did, they would likely be removed by a mod or admin.
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don't need to convict to gum up the works of government while the fascists try to do their genocide
I don't even think we can gum up the works if we tried. If we try they will just do things without a law saying they can or can't. It's not like they are facing any consequences.
You’re right we should just go down with decorum instead of with a fight, it’s the right thing to do 🙄
It's just that fighting lawfully is not enough. There are other ways to fight this, but filing for impeachment won't do it.
I don't know how you got that from my comment, but whatever. Morons gonna moron.
None of that means we shouldn't still try. It does matter.
I don't know where you people are getting the idea I said we shouldn't still try. My comment was in regard to "gumming up the works" which for this administration doesn't matter because they are doing everything outside the law.
The works are sufficiently gummed already. Any path forward seems to involve action only implied in the constitution. Maybe a rereading of the Declaration of Independence is in order as well.
Before that, though, we need SOMEONE to actually propose the articles...
You need four Republicans to impeach. A lot more to convict.
Impeachment comes from the house. But yes it's actually 20 Republican senators to convict since it's two-thirds, not a simple majority (assuming all 45 Democrats and two independents vote to convict).
20 is definitely not happening. Even in the last two trials, they only got one vote in one trial.
All it takes for evil to triumph is for "good men" to do nothing.
Impeachment is beyond useless.
So were the 50+ votes to repeal the ACA when the Republicans had a minority control but they still did it to send a message.
Further demonstrating how vacuous and generally shitty they are. Even the backward degenerate voters want the fucking ACA.
Impeachment has been of no consequence for half a fucking century.
Maybe we ought to start doing shit that hasn’t been proven ineffective.
You're asking Hitler to get rid of the Gestapo.
Thats the thing. Rounding up people from the street will not catch any criminals (legally speaking), by definition: if they committed a crime, and a judge deemed them guilty, they would be in jail or they would be fugitives. In either case, they are not unknowns, and authorities must've already knew about them. Getting people randomly off the street, you cannot, legally speaking, be catching criminals.