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New AMD Ryzen desktop CPUs could beat a PS5 without a graphics card, hints CEO - The AMD Ryzen AI Max APUs for mobile, originally codenamed Strix Halo, could make an appearance in desktop PCs, as hint (www.pcgamesn.com)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (2 children)

See, the thing about this framing is that by this logic the PS5 is also doing this "without a graphics card". They're both APUs, they both have a GPU in them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Agreed, I really hated this description of PCs with only iGPUs or APUs since they are not "without a graphics card" almost all CPUs nowadays have some kind of integrated graphics solution, some better than others. It's just that in the past iGPUs have been laughably bad, which is why many people have needed an external one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Does the PS5 really not have a dedicated graphics chip?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Pretty much every CPU these days has a dedicated GPU, integrated GPUs and APUs just have them on the Same die. So it's technically correct to say they don't have a "dedicated graphics chip" but it's also a bit misleading to say that, implying that they don't have or need a GPU at all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

They kinda do, but they put the dedicated chip into the same die as the CPU so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Yep. Same as the Strix Point APUs and the M series Apple stuff and the Steam Deck and the Switch and a whole bunch of other things.

It's kinda weird that people are beign shocked by this only now. I guess the long tradition of laptop iGPUs sucking has led to some weird assumptions.