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One of the men goes for her phone. The other grabs at her hands. Ozturk screams. Shock and fear ripple through her voice. Two masked women join them, tugging at her backpack, peeling the straps from her shoulders. “I’m going somewhere, I need to call someone,” she pleads. “We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says in response.

They surround her. Then, one by one, they pull their neck gaiters up to cover their faces. “You don’t look like police,” a voice off screen says. “Why are you hiding your faces?” The questions continue, but the figures don’t respond. Instead, they cuff Ozturk, cross the street, and put her in an unmarked SUV. She is gone.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 days ago (5 children)

What would happen to a bystander who physically intervened, but then was overwhelmed? Could they be get assaulting a federal officer charge, or would that be dropped because they do not show proper identification? Asking for humanity

[–] [email protected] 102 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Yes.

Remember, the Nazis executed a college girl, by beheading, for handing out flyers.

Brown shirts would kill Jews on the streets.

ICE has been turned into the SS.

MAGAts are Nazis, expect them to behave like Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

ICE is more Gestapo. Not the SS

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Man Nazi Germany had so many different evil groups it's hard to remember who did what. Yes, gestapo is probably more accurate though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

They didnt have many. Gestapa/Gestapo, Wehrmacht (land military) , SS, Hitlerjugend (HJ), Bund deutscher Mädel (BDM), SA (defunkt after power take over), Luftwaffe (airforce), Reichsmariene (Navy)

Thats basicly all. And yes the military is as guilty as the rest!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’d argue they are his stormtroopers. Masks and all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The Gestapo was the (secret) police. While the SS was a military group for all kinds of things. But they shot first, ask questions later

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No. The SA was the paramilitary dirt boys for the dirty work before they got into power. SA stands for Sturmabteilung. Their job was intimidation and roughening up other politicians.

The SS were the nutcases that were used in all kinds of things. Inner security, in military battle, assisting the genocide, helping the gestapo, aso SS stands for Schutzstaffel. As in protection of the Reich

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Like you said one became the other as essentially disenfranchised Germans after world sanctions in the treaty of Versailles.

If you put a gun in a starving man’s hand and point it at a meal they’ll shoot or becoming anything every time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The SA didnt become the SS. The SS also existed at the same time as the SA but the SA and all part of it got murdered in the night of the long knife.

The german civilians back then had a choice. They werent forced until the very end. They all knew what they got into and what they will with the nazis before they took power. Many chose resistence. Later chanclor Willy Brandt being a good example. All the students that gave their life for the resistance.

The nazi party got banned for a while but as they got unbanned and were tried to get them re banned it was determined by the conservatives them being too powerful now and rather should be rained in politicly, they thought they could control hitler. Ach Paul von Pappen and von Hindenburg, the later even once being ally of hitler for a while.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

This is what I kinda keep saying. Trump isn’t hitler he’s Hindenburg. Hitler was a foreign national appointed chancellor.

Aka an unelected official taking control of the gov sounds pretty familiar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Well, they at least shot first. I dont think they ever bothered to ask questions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

The White Rose

Rip Hans Scholl and Sophie Scholl

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

They would for sure catch charges. The days of having to do something illegal in order to be convicted are behind us. If the MAGAstappo get their way the only remaining function of the judicial system will be as a cudgel against their enemies.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you got physical before they identified as police they would subdue you and then identity. That’s why there’s 8 of them for one arrest.

I think you’d have a good chance of getting off the numerous charges against you after sitting in jail and incurring thousands in legal fees.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

getting off the numerous charges against you after sitting in jail

Ha! or they just do what they are doing here and ship you of to a place in south america without any due process at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Shoot first, find out they are a pig after.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

What would happen if I shot them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

would that be dropped because they do not show proper identification

They have badges on, so I would guess they would get an assaulting a federal office charge yeah.