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Wait, why is she in teen vogue if she's 20?
Also if he hadn't IVF'd Vivian, she'd have been born the right gender, female. Her dysphoria is literally his fault.
EDIT: I am dumb and don't know how anything works
That's not how ivf works. More likely she wouldn't have been born at all because she would have had to compete with a few million sperm instead of being specifically chosen in a lab.
Would that really make much of a different person?
It would literally be a different person. Totally different genetic stew. There might be some similarities, there's the old nature vs nurture argument. I wouldn't imagine a different person would take the same lessons from the same stimuli every single time though. It's kind of like comparing you to your sibling. Youre not exactly the same I bet.
Hell, even taking the same exact embryo and swapping the chromosomes so she was AFAB would create a different person. Growing up trans and making the hard choice to transition is part of who she is. If you take that away there would be a chain reaction of differences down the line.
You don't have to be a teenager to be featured in teen vogue. Just interesting to teenagers (and I can understand why Vivian has the spotlight on her).
Also, that's not how genetics work. Vivian is the result of that specific egg and sperm. She never would've been born with XX chromosomes. Someone else would've been born.
If we want to laugh at Musk though, we can point out how the venn Diagramm of autistic people and trans people is practically a circle. Musk trying to select all "males" during IVF was always doomed to fail, especially the more kids he had. He's so dumb and desparate for control he thought he could pick his kids' identities through their very genetics.
I hope Vivian has a kick ass life just the way she is. :)
This is pretty much why I suspect that Elon Musk's transphobia is a case of "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."
the trans-autism connection is largely a transphobic dogwhistle and best not used, considering it's not really true.
I exaggerated for comedic effect, sure, but it is true. There is a statistically significant number of people who are autistic and identify as trans/non-binary as compared to neurotypical people.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17794-1
sigh I would argue correlation over causation. autistic people are generally less likely to care about societal conformity and be open about their gender variance and gender diverse people are more likely to seek out a diagnosis. one is unlikely to be causing the other.
along with that, it's largely irrelevant and this type of rhetoric only aids right wing peoples in labeling gender diversity as mental illness in need of treatment and/or demonization.
I'm all for bashing Elon, but gender dysphoria does occur in naturally conceived persons.
I mean had that sperm not been used, she'd have been born XX