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Lawmakers from both parties expressed outrage after The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief revealed he was accidentally included in a Trump administration Signal chat discussing Yemen airstrikes.

Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.) and Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.) called for investigations and firings, labeling it a serious security breach.

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration's mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.

The singular problem with Americans doing a holocaust abroad is that another country might find out about it in advance.

I mean, just think for a minute. What if we wanted to bomb a Russian orphanage or a Chinese university? They could take advantage of our data insecurity to thwart us!

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration’s mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.

We're carpet bombing people on the other side of the fucking planet. This is so far outside the scope of "national security".

Absolute Ghoul Nation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're diminishing the term Holocaust by using it for something only remotely comparable.

This specific incident, no. But the point is that if it happens for other issues more important domestically, it would be a national security risk.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You’re diminishing the term Holocaust

The US’s Role in the Hidden Genocide in Yemen

The Arab state of Yemen has been locked in a civil war since 2014—a conflict that escalated significantly in March 2015, when a Saudi-led coalition began air strikes against the Houthi rebels. This coalition has been backed by the US and the UK, despite producing a humanitarian crisis that has left 8.4 million people on the brink of famine.

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Q. You write that “even if the US and UK do not intend for their support to be used in the commission of genocide, it is irrelevant to the question of whether they are complicit in the genocide.” What is the basis for assigning responsibility to a state in this case, if intent is irrelevant?

In the case of Bosnia v. Serbia, the International Court of Justice established that shared intent is only relevant when considering whether a state conspired with another to commit genocide. For complicity, a state only needs to be aware that the aid it is providing to another state facilitates the crime being committed. In other words, if the US and UK shared the Saudi-led coalition’s genocidal intent, the aid they are providing would make them conspirators in the commission of genocide. Without shared intent, they are still complicit in the crime based on their continued material support, which has aided in the commission of genocide.

With Trump's return, we've once again gone beyond simply facilitating Saudi mass killing of Yemeni residents and gone straight into the strategic slaughter of whole neighborhoods and villages.

But the point is that if it happens for other issues more important domestically, it would be a national security risk.

That the American media can only report on the exposure of the systematic mass murder of half the country's native residents as a risk to the United States illustrates the deep rot within the American psyche.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That the American media can only report on the exposure of the systematic mass murder of half the country's native residents as a risk to the United States illustrates the deep rot within the American psyche.

No one said that. This isn't about reporting, this is about information leaks.

If genocide is limited to mass killing by direct violence, some might argue that the term cannot apply to Yemen. Relative to the generally recognized cases of genocide (Armenia, Jewish Holocaust, Rwanda, etc.), a “substantial” number of Yemenis have not been killed by direct violence. However, between ten and twenty thousand people have been killed by direct violence and many tens of thousands more have been killed by deteriorating public health conditions directly related to the Saudi-led coalition’s bombing attacks and naval blockade. Additionally, Yemen’s rich cultural heritage has been deliberately bombed by the coalition. The direct and indirect physical attacks, public health emergencies, and cultural destruction together amount to a synchronized attack on life in Yemen.

It is not a Holocaust type event. An issue and a travesty, yes. But they are fighting literal terrorists as part of it. It's not exactly the pure black and white the Holocaust was, and I think your own source backs my statement.

I do agree it is horrifying. But I would argue that the saudis are the primary perpetrators, not the states. Unfortunately the actual meat of the article is hidden behind a paywall.