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EU Search engine incoming: Ecosia is teaming up with Qwant to build a European search index (blog.ecosia.org)

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For the people who have not yet decided on a search engine. The most EU way you can go is Ecosia or Qwant as they are building their own search index.

Ecosia is my personal pick as its also aimed at planting trees and they have quite a good browser alongside it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Organic Maps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah but open street maps does not handle temporary road closures, construction, or temporary one-ways well...

https://nelsonslog.wordpress.com/2024/03/30/openstreetmap-temporary-road-closures/

I don't even know if organic maps respects tags. https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/vuuecd/how_or_where_can_i_submit_temporary_closed_roads/

It certainly doesn't respect road conditions or road priority. It constantly tries to send me through a 2 meter wide cobblestone and broken up asphalt service road instead of the main residential roads because it "technically" is 50, even with surface marked as bad condition.

I try to contribute to OSM where I can, but i never can trust organic maps to get me somewhere I haven't been before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

open street maps does not handle temporary road closures, construction, or temporary one-ways well

that sadly depends on your region and the amount of volunteers in your area. I remember reading how OSM was more reliable after the 2023 Turkey earthquake for the first responders than Google Maps, because the changes in the terrain were added there much faster.

I don't know about the road conditions during the navigation. it definitely does support this kind of data as I input it myself every now and then, but I don't drive so I haven't had to try out different OSM navigation algorithms to see if they account for it, or anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

I more mean the actual method of doing it isn't straightforward and there is still no fully agreed upon and documented method for construction changes, just a few "you can do it this way" kind of things.

And indeed navigation picking up the OSM updates and using temporary closure tags and road conditions seems to be more miss than hit with organic maps at least. But the UI is 10x more usable than OSMAnd so I use it where possible.