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[–] [email protected] 58 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Jobs paved the way for Musk. I hate that he's so often cited as a genius to look up to in the tech world

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not musk, the entire silicon valley fake it and hope you make it mindset. Jobs opened the door for Holmes. Jobs opened the door for Uber to completely make up a business plan. Jobs opened the door to Elon buying "founder" status. His genius contribution is in making the tech industry the batch of lying scum it is today.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Which is one of the reasons I'm giving up on working in tech despite having a PhD from my home country in Telecommunications. I have skills and could learn the ones I lack but I just don't have the mindset and attitude and don't feel like developing them. I'd rather code my own projects in my own way while remaining underemployed.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The behind the bastards episodes on Jobs was really eye-opening to just how awful of a leader he was

[–] [email protected] 36 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

People mistaking Marketing people for tech genies happens to often.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe, but then you also have people like my brother who basically worship Jobs, and say shit like "Wozniak is expendable."

I told him people like Wozniak are the real geniuses who actually make shit work, and he told me straight faced that without people like Jobs people like Wozniak will probably just have a desk job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

People that worship psuedo intellectuals like Jobs are just coping with that fact that they're less intelligent. Sales dudes love having sales rule over engineering. I'd go as far to say it's difficult to be a decent human being and in sales at the same time.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

The cause goes the other way

Edit: Lol sorry not sorry, salespeople

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 hours ago

You need a desk to place the components on to build the computer and then to place the computer on, to do the programming.

I'd say, even with Jobs, Wozniak had a desk job.


Of course, unless you use a projector or floor-stands for the monitors and keep the keyboard+mouse on your lap, in which case, you can get away from the desk.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago

I find it really amusing to know Bill Gates ones made fun of him:

"Steve's achievements are all the more impressive when you know that he couldn't look at a piece of code and know what it was."

However he also said:

"Clearly, he had so many skills that I didn't, but we were both a little bit pied pipers in terms of getting people to work ridiculous hours."

Which really should tell you everything you need to know given who made the money and how many people were made to work "ridiculous hours".