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European leaders holding emergency talks in Brussels have agreed on a massive increase to defence spending, amid a drive to shore up support for Ukraine after Donald Trump halted US military aid and intelligence sharing.

But the show of unity was marred by Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán, failing to endorse an EU statement on Ukraine pushing back against Trump’s Russia-friendly negotiating stance.

The 26 other EU leaders, including Orbán’s ally Robert Fico, the Slovakian prime minister, “firmly supported” the statement. “There can be no negotiations on Ukraine without Ukraine,” said the draft statement, a response to Trump’s attempt to sideline Europe and Kyiv.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You're saying that Europe can afford social programs because it doesn't spend as much as the USA in defense, implying the USA can't afford those because they're defending Europe, I'm saying the USA has no excuse not to offer social programs even with their current spendings.

I'm 100% sure that Europe wouldn't have cut their social programs if their defense budget was higher, it's a governance choice to let your population eat shit and die and to waste money pretending to help it and that's the choice the USA made.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Europe can grow their military and keep social programs at the same level by increasing taxes.

The USA can increase social spending by decreasing military spending, increasing taxes, or increasing the deficit.

There are other options like cutting fraud and waste, etc.

I don't know why you were rude to me, but your audience approves.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the whole world is tired of people acting like the US is a victim in that and that's exactly what you did in your original message.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago

You might want to check your personal prejudices with how you treat other people.