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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh are you calling what's going on in the West Bank peace? These people are the victims of an explicit genocide campaign.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No. I said that West Bank accepted peace treaties but Hamas refused them every single time, thus ending the treaties.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll engage just in case, but yeah this is very wrong. First, until 2006 the West Bank and Gaza were under one government, so the idea that the West Bank alone accepted any terms is very interesting, to say the least. Second, Israeli bullshit peace offers are too many so just say which one you want and I'll explain why it was bullshit. The only exception was the Oslo accords in 1993-1995, but those fell through when the Israeli PM was fucking assassinated by a Zionist and replaced by Bibi, who called the whole thing off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was referencing the Oslo Accords, yes. However, I'm curious about your saying that Bibi called it off.

I thought it was because of attacks from jihadist groups who weren't in favour of the accords started attacking again.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The West Bank isn’t ruled by Hamas, they have zero presence there. You have a very limited perspective on this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas can’t refuse a treaty for a territory they do not rule. Your argument is still ridiculous on its face.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, they can. They refused by attacking Israel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is Hamas affecting a treaty between two parties that aren’t Hamas? You keep restating the premise but you haven’t justified why your premise is valid. The reality is that Hamas is a great excuse for Likud and the Zionist coalition to push for the one state solution they want without as bad of a pr storm.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because at the time, while the Palestine Government operated in Gaza, they didn't actually hold power inside of Gaza. No, Hamas controlled Gaza and was in close contact with Arafat during the Accords.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ok? You said the West Bank refused treaties. Hamas doesn’t run the government there. The only reason the actions of extremists would affect negotiations with moderates is if you’re negotiating in bad faith and want to break the agreement while posturing as moral. Which I’m pretty sure is the Likud party’s policy given all the actions they’ve taken.