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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you absolutely lose track of while arguing is not whether what the IDF is doing wrong - it is. It is the way you're arguing.

This conflict won't be resolved by blaming only one side while glorifying the other. And glorifying Hamas is what you are doing when you are equaling them to the French partisans.

I'm open to the actual argument, that being are they in fact using human shields, and what is the IDFs responsibility in protecting these civilians. And funnily enough I agree with you here. Killing civilians is wrong no matter who does it. As is collective punishment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not arguing or debating with you. That's not what I've done, and I won't do it. I'm talking past you.

while glorifying the other

I hope everyone who reads your words can recognize that you're mischaracterizing my statements, and acting in bad faith. Anyone who encounters this exchange can use it as evidence that you are not worth serious engagement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All you do is attack the way I'm arguing, which you don't seem enjoy. I don't understand what the point of that is.

I'm not even disagreeing with your critic of the IDF. I just need to point out the absolute stupidity of your comment

French resistance during the second world war knew the Nazis would retaliate; they still operated and hid within the civilian population. There are former towns in France where only crumbling stone, abandoned cars, and a plaque to the dead remains, a vow to never rebuild and never forget. Everyone was killed and their homes burned in reprisal for maquis activity.

Are you saying the French women and children murdered by Nazis are the fault of the French partisans? Is this a grey moral area for you?

Are you siding with the Nazis, huh? HUH?

That's just not necessary, nor a particularly pleasant debate style.

But I'm not getting that through to you. So enjoy your weekend!