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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel has offered Palestine peace treaties, even willing to make Jerusalem, the capital of their government, into a neutral zone. West Bank was for that, but Hamas responded by launching another terrorist attack. I mean, we can go back further and further in history, saying, "Uhm actually this is who started it", and we'd be all day until we're arguing over cavemen.

I don't like Israel, if that's what you want to hear.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, that's why Jerusalem is now their unofficial capital. And seriously if you truly believe Israel is not to blame here you are living in a parallel reality.

Check Wikipedia or any other respecting human rights organisation what they think about the conflict and stop repeating your country's propaganda.

And even if it was all Hamas fault, the military wing is 30K only and you already killed more than 11K believe it or not and destroyed a good chunk of civilian infrastructure and residential buildings, forcibly displacing people, which accounts for war crimes, which by the way are well documented.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just so we're on the right page, are we referring to the entire almost century-old conflict, or are we referring to the 2023 conflict?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It benefits propagandists to try to arbitrarily reduce the scope of a topic so they can focus on framing things in a way that validates their position.

Conflict didn’t START in 2023. Any suggestion otherwise is either naive or manipulative. The conditions that gave rise to Hamas have existed for decades and the continuation of these conditions will keep this conflict going until one group of extremists gets their genocidal wish. Right now it looks like Likud and other extreme Zionists are the ones getting their genocide.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

rare to see a take that isn't on a side