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TIL After Joan of Arc was executed on charges of heresy, her mother spent 25 years clearing her name. She convinced the pope to reopen Joan's case and attended the retrial - in her 70s. (en.wikipedia.org)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

'Sin' is a very relative term to time (in years/decades) and religion (time & locality in prob municipalities), so maybe it wasn't.

(It also depends how they were doing it - on one hand they could have done much the same with a statue of her, even if she wasn't a saint yet or in fact the opposite.)

Maybe her wearing man clothes was a bigger "sin" as perceived at the time.

Religion (and "sin") is stil just people, so politics, not even religious texts, but literally intra-people politics.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it wasn't shady, I'm just pointing out the possibility of it not registering on any sin level scale.
(Also both of them fought under her command.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's fair. And tbh, she might have been cool with it, but I'm pretty sure lying has always been viewed as bad, so lying to a monarch who is "chosen by god" seems like a big no-no, even if for some reason they managed to not mentally classify it as "bearing false witness against a neighbor".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Yes, I am mostly agreeing with you, I just don't know how much of it can be translated 1:1 to that environment.

People gave gifts to cherished figures all the time (like saints and the Church).

It seems she lied to the king & nothing bad happened (she later even got a knight hubby with a castle). And one of the brothers got an island.