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You know what a "false dichotomy" is? If no, this is a beautiful example. Immigration reform is an entire world of options, "deport all the brown people" and "open borders and free subsidized piñatas for everyone" aren't the only options like you're presenting here.
The programs that work get killed because they require companies to pay on the books and at a reasonable rate and provide certain protections which effects company profits.
Nobody likes being told to stop exploiting something when they've been doing it for years...
This, I find most of people's problems with "The Left" are based on their failure to understand what a False Dichotomy is
I had a friend of mine tell me that he didn't support Democrats or Republicans because he felt the options were "I can vote Right and get politicians who wanna kill black people, or vote Left and get politicians who worship black people like Gods!"
and I had to be the one to tell him, that no one is out here worshiping black people as gods.
Well, maybe fans of Morgan Freeman in reference to his role as God in Bruce Almighty, but even then that's just one black guy and not all black people.
He tried to say that "Some Leftists do...", but ultimately he caved and realized how silly his claim was...
I still can't get him to vote, though he claims he supports Democrats as a lesser evil option....
Which doesn't really matter because he doesn't fucking vote.
You literally avoided my whole question. Why do you want illegal immigrants here? I'd think youd want them here legally rather but maybe I'm just crazy. Is it just mean to deport people? If I was in Canada illegally and they arrested me and sent me back to the US, I wouldnt think Canada was a shitty country for it.
I addressed the premise of the question because it's fundamentally flawed, any direct answer would have to tacitly acknowledge those flaws as valid or be intellectually dishonest.
Left-wing people aren't in favor of "illegal immigration", they are in favor of immigration reform.
And what do we do in the meantime while we dont have immigration reform? Pretend we do and ignore laws?
You know what a “false dichotomy” is? If no, this is a beautiful example. Immigration reform is an entire world of options, "deport all the brown people" and "Ignore all the laws" aren’t the only options like you’re implying here.
This is a very, very old topic. What have we been doing, before it was politicized into a fiery hot-button issue? What, historically, have we been doing that is effective?
I never implied those are the only options. I only specifically said I have no issue with deporting illegal immigrants, which is what's currently happening. Why should we permit illegal immigrants to stay in the country and/or attempt to gain legal residence?
It sound like a lot of people are upset that if we get rid of our indentured servants and slaves, then we won't be able to afford all the useless shit we buy constantly.
You very much did, and you very much are continuing to present hyperbolic examples as reasonable interpretations.
An illustrative but lazy counterpoint might be: Why aren't you more comfortable with putting immigrants in concentration camps? Don't you see how open borders would harm this country?