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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Past atrocities does not justify today's actions by another at the present time.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that holding America up as a standard and saying that we're somehow better is hypocritical and dangerous because it helps to justify/overlook shit like what's happening in Palestine rn, and I'm sick of the general mindset exactly because it has helped lead to the ignorance and complacency we see with a genocide that is fueled largely by American desire to retain influence in that region for capitalistic purposes, with no regard for human rights.

Vietnam has a much longer historical animosity with China than the with the US.

I mean yeah no shit, they've been at it for thousands of years lmao.

And, as I've said elsewhere I was more getting at the human rights atrocities perpetrated by the US which still have great effect on Vietnam.

I'm in no way trying to justify anything. Again, I'm just saying I'm sick of seeing people hold the US up as "hey look we're better" because I really don't know that we are. We care about human rights at home, to an extent, but we don't give af who that affects in other parts of the world. Is that really better than China pretending to care about it's citizens with communism while abusing their human rights and exercising insane governmental control over their lives?

The US has been and continues to be the direct and indirect perpetrator of a lot of evils, and the more I learn about these things, the more I dislike seeing America characterized as a standard of morality, because it directly reflects propaganda which has allowed for many of these atrocities to happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No one is holding US as the gold standard. But with the present dog-eat-dog realpolitik, the US is seen as the "least of all evils". Last time I checked, a survey carried out across the world said most still prefer the US than China or Russia. In my opinion, it's better to have a multipolar world to stop the current set up humanity is having right now.