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[–] [email protected] 67 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Not quite, it's an international sign that a vessel is in distress.

Then mostly right wing lunatics co-opted it to mean that our country is in distress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Ahh, I didn't know about that historical context. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Which they co-opted from protesters in the 60's, rallying against the Vietnam war, which they co-opted from the Revolutionary war, where (allegedly, much harder to source), the revolutionaries also flew the Union Jack inverted. Its history to mean insurrection in the US is as old as the US.

Its been used in many other instances internationally, and yes, also at sea with a much deeper history to signal distress. Regardless, the pedantry is both technically and figuratively misplaced.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 20 hours ago

which they co-opted from the Revolutionary war, where (allegedly, much harder to source), the revolutionaries also flew the Union Jack inverted.

If they did, I assume a half dozen vexillology enthusiasts with good eyesight got very concerned.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

also flew the Union Jack inverted

How could they tell?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

The flag isn’t symmetrical, which is where the orginial flying the flag upside down comes from. It’s subtle enough pirates wont notice but an experienced British naval officer will and come rescue you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

international

How does that work for a ship from a country like Cuba?

Do they hang it backward? I.e. With the red arrow pointing toward the pole?

What about Japan?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I could be mistaken, but I think that was a consideration when designing the stars and stripes. The colors and lack of symmetry make it easy to see its orientation from a distance.