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In Cologne last month, Nintendo's public Gamescom showfloor booth let you play Pikmin 4 and Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. …

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ship with an Ethernet port

I have to ask... why? The only device I've connected to hardwired Ethernet is a desktop PC in the same room as my router. I've not used ethernet for any portable device for eons. Why would you need it?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a TV console? For better download speeds and more consistent connection for online gaming

WiFi works okay but it can't have cost that much to put an Ethernet port into the switch dock

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@bdonvr @RickRussell_CA jumping thru hoops to add a ethernet port is so fun to do

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Because they’ve been standard for literally decades and Nintendo has released/probably will continue to release games that depend on streaming, such as Kingdom Hearts, which is unplayable over wifi.

Also more reliable MP/faster speeds.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smash players are real serious about their latency

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you're serious (I don't do consoles, so if that was sarcasm it's lost on me), but does that mean they use a wired pro controller too?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Latency on wireless controllers isn't a big deal (and a lot of Smash players are using wired Gamecube controllers anyway), but it's not a big deal on wi-fi either. The problem with wi-fi is packet loss and not being able to send and receive at the same time, which feels like latency in fits and starts, because it has to wait until the packet sends successfully. Ethernet helps with Smash, but it still sorely needs rollback netcode regardless. Even on a wire, you're still on delay-based netcode.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't the Joycons use Bluetooth, which are pretty laggy on their own? I know I absolutely do not like using BT mice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

they do use bluetooth. However, it should be noted that not all BT devices are created equally. Check out this table from RTINGS.com of reviews of wireless bluetooth headsets. You can see that the very worst headsets have 300+ milliseconds of latency, while the very best have almost 0 ms of latency. I imagine that the Joycons hit a similarly low latency.