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Mark Carney, frontrunner for Canadian Liberal Party leadership and potential prime minister, stated Canada will stand up to a bully after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canadian imports.

Carney vowed to retaliate by matching the US tariffs dollar for dollar, asserting Canada would not cave in despite mounting pressure.

He criticized Trump for undermining trade agreements, warning that the tariffs would damage the US global reputation and economic stability.

Outgoing Prime Minister Trudeau promised a forceful, immediate response, emphasizing unity as Canada defends its economic interests, ensuring national prosperity.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t actually think the US would survive such a war. The trouble is that many states would defect. Can you imagine CA footing the bill for an invasion of Canada? Already a trade war is extremely dangerous. How easy would it be for, say NY, to sabotage the border controls?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah it would be a both a reason and an opportunity for states to secede.

There's a significant probability of that happening anyway... how long will progressive (and wealthy) states subsidize backwards and ignorant states? The whole reason why Trump is in power is because there are no consequences for significant parts of the US to be backwards thinking. If it were all separate countries the red states (red countries?) would have to become a little more progressive or they'd be living in poverty. As it is now, states like California and NYC are forced to subsidize the red states no matter how backwards they get and the red states get to force their backwards values onto the progressive states.

This is not sustainable long term. If this situation persists, it's the end of the USA. If Trump pushes things too far it only accelerates the timetable. Right now the allies of the US don't want this to happen. But those countries are no longer allies of the US and start working in the other direction then it's all over for the USA.

The US can turn things around, but there needs significant changes to reverse it's downward spiral.