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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think if you were focused on reaching an understanding, rather than immediately framing me as some entirely unreasonable person that thinks Stalin was a perfect saint free from sin, we would be having much shorter convos.

I'll try my best in the future.

evidently it seems you think it's good enough to recommend to others

Wdym by "think it's good enough to recommend to others"? I haven't recommended it to anyone i know. Unless you're talking about that one thread yesterday. In that case, i do plan to finish it as soon as my exams are done

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate your effort. Genuinely, I do, that's why I even bother engaging with you, because despite clearly holding anti-AES views, you don't actually shut out any and all evidence. For what it's worth, I held similar views to you about a decade ago, and I don't mean that in a condescending way, we all have our own political journeys and I am older than you (unless you went back to school). I see genuine hope in you becoming a Leftist eventually if you remain open to reading and hearing viewpoints alternative to your current understanding.

As for what you mean, yes, I was referring to that thread. I saw your response while I was making my own.

Further, I am going to go ahead and plug Blowback again. It's a podcast, so you should be able to listen to it while doing whatever else you're doing (unless you're studying, of course). I'll link the first episode here. If you're a USian like I am, you owe it to the people of the world the genocidal US Empire has destroyed and slaughtered for profit to take a real look at the hellish sins of the United States.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

despite clearly holding anti-AES views, you don't actually shut out any and all evidence.

Thanks, i try my best to always argue in good faith and remain open-minded. Only if that were the spirit many went into discussions with.

I am older than you (unless you went back to school). I see genuine hope in you becoming a Leftist eventually

Yeah you're older. I'm 19. Although i don't know about me being a leftist someday haha. Maybe it's not entirely far-fetched since it was only a couple years ago i held conservative views, but we'll see.

Further, I am going to go ahead and plug Blowback again

I'll be sure to check it out!

USian like I am

I'm not American - I'm British and Nigerian. The former i obtained by birth, but we have our own atrocities as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, I would consider my former self to have been liberal, but with reactionary views shaped by those I grew up around. I don't think we would have been far apart in terms of views, I didn't start supporting AES until I truly did the legwork of diving deep into Marxist theory and history. If I wanted a shortcut, I would have read Blackshirts and Reds first, which is why it's early in the reading list I made.

As for being British and Nigerian, Blowback is still great, and helps explain a more sympathetic view towards Iraq, Cuba, Korea, etc. It has 5 seasons, 1 topic each.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well it was nice conversing as always. Have a good night... Afternoon?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Afternoon, haha. You as well.