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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

claims are basically an astroturfed campaign by an evangelical christo-fascist named Adrian Zenz.

Yes, because Zenz is definitely the only reason anyone knows about the genocide. There totally aren't actual Uyghurs who have told their own stories or anything like that.

that’s the hardest part for a lot of Americans since you’re

Nice try, but nope. I haven't exactly been subtle either. Actually wait, not even nice try, because the correct answer is literally my instance.

Yeah, US imperialism, and western imperialism more broadly, is bad. That isn't relevant here though, because we're talking about a genocide China is committing against a minority population within their own borders.

(You could maybe have made something at least appearing to be a valid argument about imperialism if we were instead talking about Russia's unprovoked aggression against another country, which I know tankies also like to defend. But that's not where we're at right now.)

If you call yourself a leftist, try reflecting a bit on what that actually means to you. Because to me, it means desiring equality and opposing social hierarchy. And restricting people's ability to express their culture; stealing children away from their parents, preventing people from leaving your country to reconnect with their relatives. These are all very much not in line with leftist ideals. Defending a country that calls itself communist just because that's in its name, without reflecting on how well they actually live up to those values, is pretty poor leftism in my view.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

There totally aren't actual Uyghurs who have told their own stories or anything like that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart

Just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true. Do you think cops ever lie when they testify?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah, we’re not gonna agree on this and i don’t feel like spending time on a debate, especially since you’re downplaying american imperialism. have a good day, peace.