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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

i never understood why a mined diamond has a bigger value than an artificially made one when the only difference is the suffering of the workers. ppl who like diamonds are stupid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The first thing DeBeers tried was "artificial diamonds have imperfections, you want a real rock that's selected to be as perfect as possible". Then the artificial industry made diamonds so good that you could only tell the difference from the lack of imperfections. Then DeBeers marketing changed to "it's too perfect, you want something that has the small imperfections of a natural process".

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yup. It someone wasn't killed for it, it's less valuable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Or dismembered by militia for not working fast enough

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There is this idea that seems to be really pervasive that natural is always better. And it's not true so often. A common example I like to give is that natural almond extract contains cyanide and artificial almond extract does not. No, it isn't enough cyanide to kill you, but I would say no cyanide is better than some cyanide.

And a lot of those "natural is always better" people would happily take fentanyl over willow bark if they were in agony.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I think a better analogy would be oxycodone or hydromorphone over opium but your point stands

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Another aspect of this is that "natural" things like supplements are not usually "naturally occurring" but rather highly refined.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Indeed. As is arsenic. You can even find it in water supplies (especially in the U.S., where there are "acceptable" levels).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Same reason diamonds are valued in the first place. Marketing campaigns tricking the gullible majority and most of the rest conforming to not stand out and cause issues for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Diamonds do make sense as gemstones because of their hardness. They'll stay scratch free for life. But ya, the diamond industry is garbage.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe, but realistically, most jewelry will have them inlaid in gold anyway, which is not hard at all. So you need to take care not to scratch it regardless of what gem is used.

Also, many other gems are harder then steel which is about the hardest thing your jewelry would come into contact with.

So I would say the benefit is minor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

They're too common to be truly valuable, though, and that's before factoring in that you can just make them now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

For a long time (and maybe still currently I don't know) they weren't able to make diamonds bigger like people want. So for a small diamond it might not make any sense, but there was a point where ones we made weren't meeting what people wanted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

synthetic diamond sizes keep getting bigger, but it is much harder to make them I think

As of 2023 the heaviest synthetic diamond ever made weighs 30.18 ct (6.0 g); the heaviest natural diamond ever found weighs 3167 ct (633.4 g). Wikipedia

That would be 1.7 vs 181 cm^3^

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well, if they're getting that big, that's big enough for a lot of jewelry now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, I would imagine that size would be comically large for like a ring or something