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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Given the existence of world powers, realistically we are never going to get UN intervention where countries like US or China are stakeholders, so that's not how it is designed. It would just turn into open warfare and we would probably be on WW6 by now.

I mean, yes, but it would still be nice for the UN to think about addressing its own systemic biases in deciding what deserves intervention. For starters, by looking at why only those 5 nations conveniently have eternal veto on the Security Council instead of something like a rotating country moderator panel like other councils.

Given the UN literally created the modern state of Israel and defined its borders in 1947, which arguably is part of the reason this particular dispute over the territory, which happens to have been annexed by Israel in 1948.

The original UN map before the First Modern Arab Israeli war for anyone unfamiliar with it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The actions of the UN pre-vietnam war are essentially a one-off "oops we were figuring out the rules" type deal. The fact that the UN and the world at large survived the Cold War, happened in large part because all major nuclear powers had veto power, giving them a rare opportunity for open dialogue that doesn't threaten their sovereignty. Avoiding nuclear war and/or WWIII is the UN's Prime Directive, everything else is just a bonus. Unfortunately the only way you'll get Putin, Biden, and Xi Xinping to sit at the same table is by assuring them that no binding decision will be taken, so that is what the UN guarantees by design.