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I live in Poland. We have both of them.
PROs:
CONs:
PROs:
CONs:
Now, I know this sub tends to romanticize USSR, but during occupation (so until 1990) it wasn't that you had an apartment for yourself for every single person. If we just want to consider recent history (like 1980) then:
You realize that millions of people living in US and Canada would kill for that right now? It's actually very common at this point for multiple people to share apartments komunalka style because their jobs don't pay a living wage.
Also, you create a false dichotomy here suggesting that if free housing was built the way USSR did it today then it would have to be built to the 1950s standard. Obviously there's absolutely no reason why you couldn't be building modern style apartments.
also, I'm not talking about them. They were a thing in the 50's (after the war) when people were sharing bathrooms or kitchens, they were no longer really a thing in the 80's. In the 80's apartments had their own bathrooms and kitchens.
edit: isn't that basically "Friends" for USA people? :D
Soviet apartments in the 80s are incomparably better than this, it's incredible that you cannot understand this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tent_cities_in_the_United_States
I am surprised that you read my post as against building state owned apartment complex, but then why would I expect anything from somone on the internet.
I was describing buildings from the `80.
... so the ones I described as "so many cons that I'm too sad to talk about them and we have a separate wiki page to describe how awful they can get"?
Everything I said in my comment still applies if you replace 50 with 80 in it.
Once again, you don't seem to understand the simple fact that millions of people in the west have it worse right now.
Other than the ceilings part your cons describe most American apartments.
And people would kill here to have nearby parks and stuff within walking distance
Ceiling part is also incorrect, i have no idea where that dude lives but i've been in a lot of different buildings from post war rebuilt ones, though khrushchevka to big plate and i never have a problem with stretching and i'm not short.
I 2nd this, either the person is taller than the average tall Pole, or resided in a gmina for a long time that has low ceilings and thought it's the same everywhere..