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Chinese social media app RedNote, known in China as Xiaohongshu, gained nearly 3 million U.S. users in one day earlier this week as a flood of self-proclaimed "TikTok Refugees" joined, according to new data from analytics firm Similarweb.

The Chinese-language app had about 3.4 million daily active users across both iOS and Android devices in the United States as of Monday, up from fewer than 700,000 the day prior, and around 300,000 the week prior, according to the Similarweb estimate.

The influx of users has been driven by a looming U.S. ban on TikTok, used by 170 million Americans, on national security concerns.

The data suggests an even larger shift to RedNote by U.S. users this week than was previously known, explaining its dramatic rise to the top of U.S. app store download rankings. Reuters reported on Tuesday that more than 700,000 new users had joined the app in only two days.

Meanwhile, U.S. usage of TikTok declined ahead of the ban, down 2.1% week over week to about 82.2 million daily active users, Similarweb said.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's the point? It's people signalling they're not dumb enough to believe the US's "national security" shit and would trust China's products over american ones like Meta or Xitter

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It'd also be so fucking funny if the US forces people to use a VPN to access Xiaohongshu. How the turntables.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Soon we'll be routing our internet connections like flight paths to get around sanctions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

This already happens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Despite China history with the Uyghurs, child labor, and many other human rights violations and completely ignoring the fact that the people of China have a mile long list of apps they're not allowed to download and a longer list of things they're not allowed to speak about. These people sure know how to signal.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There’s more child labor, both legal and illegal, in the United States than in all of China.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's debatable but either way doesn't make it right. It's like everyone has decided they'll join the #1 oppressor of free speech in order to protest their own loss of free speech? I don't see how that makes any sense. If rednote becomes popular enough it will be covered by the same act that is allowing the ban of tictok. If people want to protest American companies then they should stop using them, and I mean completely. Nothing will speak louder than a missing user base.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Repression of hate speech is objectively a good thing. “Free speech” in our society is a dog whistle for allowing far right to spread conspiracy and lies without any repercussions. Western media heavily suppresses speech that cuts against their interests. Say “free luigi” on Facebook or instagram and see what happens. Say “free Palestine” on instagram and see what happens. Yet, literal fascists are allowed to (and even further spread by people like musk) to spread antisemitic conspiracies and objectively false and misleading pseudoscience without issue. Hundreds of left leaning journalists were banned on X in one day, for nothing more than being ideologically opposite to Elon Musk.

Put simply, the illusion of “freedom of speech” in the west is just that, an illusion. China does not suppress the majority of speech, they just don’t allow ideologues to sew conflict and falsehoods.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are confusing free speech with private areas. You can absolutely go to the courthouse and scream "free luigi" All day long. You can't do it in someone else's business. Online spaces are someone else's business. Go to China and scream " free tiawan" and see what happens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then let’s talk about the brutal assault and suppression of the pro Palestinian protests last summer. On public property, assaulted by agents of the state, hundreds arrested and charged with felonies for speaking their mind, threatened constantly by public officials, laws made to criminalize criticism of the client state of Israel. Or the hundreds of journalists, veterans, and protestors assaulted for daring to speak out against the current regime during press conferences and rallies. Just today, multiple journalists were assaulted during a press conference with Blinken.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

97% peaceful and lawful.

US Student Pro-Palestine Demonstrations Remain Overwhelmingly Peaceful | ACLED Insight https://search.app/BTA3GqYzmYoyHsfZ7

Any other agendas you want to push because you are factually wrong about this one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes indeed, the protests were peaceful. The violence against the protests by police and Zionists wasn’t though. In my own state, hundreds of protestors were arrested and charged with felony RICO law violations for soliciting donations to maintain the protest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not a rico law violation...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

I agree, but it didn’t prevent them being charged with it, which got them off the campus and made them get legal help and bail money until eventually the charges were dropped. It was a transparent effort to charge them with anything/something heavy and scary just to get them off the street and into the legal system, sapping their time and energy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Show me where a protestor was charged with RICO. That did not happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago

You have lied about chinese and american child labor. You have lied about the amount of violent protests. You have lied about rico charges. Is there anything you say that's factually truthful? Is this what china supporters do?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is factually not true and you should feel bad for making that sentence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is in fact true, despite what you’ve been propagandized to believe.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just did the math, there were around 3,800 child labor violations in america last year. There were 12 million in china. It must be hard being a wolf warrior diplomat and always being this wrong. Why can't you people chill out and leave the world alone?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lmao. Sure there was. I’m sure you’re getting that data from a non biased source not aligned with American interests, right? There’s more than 3,800 child laborers in my state alone. In fact, they’re legally working much of the time. Many states have lowered the legal working age, and constant reports come out about children working in horrific conditions doing dangerous work such as slaughterhouses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Show me. Where is this data?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Got any data to support your claim?