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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I've seen some comments about how "gitlab bad" or whatnot, why do people prefer Codeberg over GitLab?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Something not mentioned yet: Forgejo, the software running Codeberg, has a smaller feature set and narrower scope than GitLab ("GitLab is the most comprehensive AI-powered DevSecOps Platform" from their website).

Forgejo is much easier to administrate for smaller groups. For example compare the dependencies mentioned in the Forgejo installation documentation and the Gitlab installation documentation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a bit of an unfair comparison - that's the GitLab instructions to install from source. Most people use a package (rpm, deb) to install GitLab.

The installation instructions for GitLab from prebuilt binaries is https://about.gitlab.com/install/, and that's significantly shorter.

That said, I think for most home applications, GitLab is hugely overkill.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes that's true. I guess what I wanted to point out is that GitLab has dependencies like Postgres, Redis, Ruby (with Rails), Vue.js... whereas Forgejo can use just SQLite and jQuery.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sqlite is not something one would use for a database with a lot of users, postresql or mysql/mariadb is a better choice in these circumstances. and i don't think having jquery as a dependency in 2023 is a positive sign. not sayibg the software is bad, it's just different.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Fortunately they were inaccurate, and it supports mariadb and postgre too.
In the documentation, they leave sqlite and mssql to the last places in the listings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Forgejo uses SQlite

That's a red flag

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hopefully not, as sqllite is never in a prominent place among the other supported databases in the documentation

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looking at it, I see the following...

GitLab's deps:

sudo apt-get install -y libcurl4-openssl-dev libexpat1-dev gettext libz-dev libssl-dev libpcre2-dev build-essential git-core

Forgejo deps:

apt install git git-lfs

I am missing something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably Forgejo/Gitea also uses such dependencies, but their Go counterparts which are statically built into the server binary.

If resource efficiency only depended on that, Gitlab would be more efficient with memory because of this. We all know that's not the case, I just said it as a comparison.

This also means that while Forgejo/Gitea depends less on your system installation, it also wont benefit from updated dependency packages.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

it also wont benefit from updated dependency packages

If they maintain the binary properly, could cause less issues with dependencies compatibility, so it's less pain for the DevOps team, like a container image, just pull the new image and done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume that's to build from source.

The times I've installed GitLab it's been a case of dnf install https://.... The rest gets dragged in automatically.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, this way they could install dependencies anyway just automatically, so you don't see them unless you read before accepting the installation. I still can read this:

Install and configure the necessary dependencies
sudo yum install -y curl policycoreutils-python openssh-server perl

And then:

Add the GitLab package repository and install the package
curl https://packages.gitlab.com/install/repositories/gitlab/gitlab-ee/script.rpm.sh | sudo bash

So they do some magic here, the script just installs the repository, so I can't see exactly any dependency they are currently using.

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