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[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (85 children)

I can’t believe how many shitlibs there are in here, using this opportunity to guilt people with an actual conscience into voting for this piece of shit as if he has some sort of moral high ground.

What is the lesser evil when both the DNC and the GOP work directly for the exact same military industrial complex?

The real villain here is the system that makes any party outside of the two party system completely irrelevant: first-past-the-post.

We have two Republican parties. One of them just so happens to pretend better at being inclusive..but they secretly also wish that the poor could be burned to fuel their mega-yachts.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (25 children)

This is nonsense. MAGA is a fascist movement. Don't let both being neo-liberal blind you.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

To me, it sounds a whole lot like both Biden AND Trump can be considered fascists….especially with this idea of secret military aid to Israel that I’m reacting to here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Looking at it from an economic definition perspective though Biden represents the financial bourgeoisie and Trump represents more industrial bourgeoisie

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’d actually argue that Trump comes from the real estate bourgeoisie but I agree on the Biden characterization. Biden never saw an MBNA donor contribution that he didn’t love (like in 2008 when he sold all future generations out for a $250,000 payout from MBNA).

I just don’t see how real estate wealth translates to industry. In general, many of Trump’s areas don’t fully align with the Republican establishment who, in my observation, generally are from real estate, energy, and industry as you mentioned.

Thinking about it more, it seems like real estate has a lot of overlap in both parties.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump obviously comes from real estate, but his current money-making on a direct level is decidedly media-driven. The question is who gives him money and who benefits from his policy, and I think the answer is that he has a relatively larger amount of support from the petite bourgeois.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah that’s true. They found a cash cow in him, though I’d still consider him an outsider (especially after his political capital has been used up).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

High fixed capital

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