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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Cars in Manhattan were already "just for the rich".
It's simply making the rich think for a moment, before taking their car to the street. Which makes the streets safer for everyone who's not rich.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

$9 doesn't make any rich person think twice.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

You might think that, but - they sure do like to complain about $9!

https://lemmy.world/post/23952553

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It adds up. There's plenty of wealthy, but not obscenely wealthy people in NYC who would think twice about paying $9 for no reason even if they can easily afford it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think they would ever have to pay it. It would be travel expenses on their accounting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think you might be misunderstanding the non-$100s of millions wealthy class.

They still do normal stuff, like go to shows and eat McDonald's while driving themselves instead of having a chauffeur.

Having your business pay the toll for a personal trip is embezzlement and most people wouldn't risk that over $9.

If companies are reimbursing people for commutes into work, that's probably not an approved tax exempt benefit so you would still need to pay income tax on that $9.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Having business pay for your tolls is absolutely not embezzlement. It's part of your compensation package. When charges increase or even gas prices, you list it and get paid back. Of course that rarely applies to poor people.

Decades ago my outside accountant passed all travel expenses to my business as part of his fees. His hourly time even included driving travel time to the office.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You'd think so, but the data clearly disagrees

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Can you show the data? Because I find it extremely hard to believe multimillionaires would take the bus instead of being driven into the city in their limo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The data this whole thread is about.

And you're making assumptions about what "rich" means.
People only making half a million are rich. They still drive their own car. Those are most of the personal vehicles being driven in Manhattan.
The people you're thinking of, are the wealthy. There are only a few hundred of those people in the city, they aren't a major driver of traffic anyway, so nobody cares about them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Is there any data that shows people making $500k a year are deterred by a $9 fee?

Going to work 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year is $2,250. The average garage price is $15 a day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

The lower traffic numbers are the data. That's what the screen shot shows. None of the bridges or tunnels are backed up.